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Decent Setup for a large room w/ wood floor and tall ceiling?

I just bought and remodeled a house and need to get a sound setup for my living room. The room itself is quite large and has wood flooring and a very tall ceiling (maybe around 18ft or so???) so there can be a decent echo in the room. I don't have a lot of great places to mount rear speakers and drilling holes in the walls/floor is pretty much out of the question. So would you guys recommend going with a decent soundbar setup or would something else make more sense? My budget is pretty decent, don't have a problem spending $1000 or more on a setup as long as it's a good one.
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I just bought and remodeled a house and need to get a sound setup for my living room. The room itself is quite large and has wood flooring and a very tall ceiling (maybe around 18ft or so???) so there can be a decent echo in the room. I don't have a lot of great places to mount rear speakers and drilling holes in the walls/floor is pretty much out of the question. So would you guys recommend going with a decent soundbar setup or would something else make more sense? My budget is pretty decent, don't have a problem spending $1000 or more on a setup as long as it's a good one.
A decent 3.1 system will beat a Soundbar every time and can be had for the same money or less.

A 3.0 set of speakers from Q Acoustics, a neutral sounding speaker, can be had for $410 add a $400 Speedwoofer for another $400 leaving you $190 to buy a decent refurbished AVR from Accessories4less.

https://www.qacoustics.com/bookshelf...aker-pair.html

https://www.qacoustics.com/home-thea...l-speaker.html

https://rslspeakers.com/products/rsl-speedwoofer-10s/

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

Wharfedale is another solid "non bright" sounding speaker choice:

https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers...lf-speakers-pr

https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers...-awfdia10csblk
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I just bought and remodeled a house and need to get a sound setup for my living room. The room itself is quite large and has wood flooring and a very tall ceiling (maybe around 18ft or so???) so there can be a decent echo in the room. I don't have a lot of great places to mount rear speakers and drilling holes in the walls/floor is pretty much out of the question. So would you guys recommend going with a decent soundbar setup or would something else make more sense? My budget is pretty decent, don't have a problem spending $1000 or more on a setup as long as it's a good one.
We just moved into a place with a very similar set of dimensions. Ceilings are 20ft high. Room is 18ft by 22ft but spills into a kitchen at the back which extends another 16ft. Due to the size I immediately noticed two things:

1- how much just basic furniture and an area rug will impact acoustics - the echo was unbearable until we furnished the room. Once furnished it became possible to listen to audio in the room

2- how much power is required to get a decent volume in the room. This is, in part, to the poor acoustics of my room. I still need to do a fair number of treatments for reflections off the walls but it eats power, even with 8 Ohm speakers. I like my movies at a solid volume level. Not reference but maybe 10db off from ref. If you like a football game or movie turned up a little bit, I can't imagine a soundbar filling that room.

Of course it is up to you, but I would honestly (and personally) shy away from soundbars unless it was the only thing that would fit the budget/installation requirements. Visit some good local shops that have honest sales people and a good selection of quality brands - not the big box electronics stores. Listen to their showroom equipment and talk to people about your room and see what equipment they can offer. You will find something that sounds right to your ears and ask that if it doesn't work out in your room there is a return period as things tend to sound very different from a showroom once you get them home and into a room with quite different dimensions and levels of treatment. Hope this helps!

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A decent 3.1 system will beat a Soundbar every time and can be had for the same money or less.

A 3.0 set of speakers from Q Acoustics, a neutral sounding speaker, can be had for $410 add a $400 Speedwoofer for another $400 leaving you $190 to buy a decent refurbished AVR from Accessories4less.

https://www.qacoustics.com/bookshelf...aker-pair.html

https://www.qacoustics.com/home-thea...l-speaker.html

https://rslspeakers.com/products/rsl-speedwoofer-10s/

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

Wharfedale is another solid "non bright" sounding speaker choice:

https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers...lf-speakers-pr

https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers...-awfdia10csblk
These are excellent suggestions. Wharfedale and Q Acoustics are tremendous values. Though I've never listened to RSL I've read a ton of favorable reviews and the sub, especially, gets a lot of respect. With Wharfedale though, you also get some of the most beautiful speakers to go along with the impressively low prices. They look 10 times the price!
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Thanks for the suggestions on speakers guys! How important are rear satellite's/bookshelf speakers really? The reason I ask is I don't have a way to run speaker wire to the back of this room without tearing into flooring/walls that I just had remodeled (AKA it's not happening) so for me to have rears they would have to be wireless. I'm not really an audiophile.... you think I would be happy with just a 3.1 setup rather than jump up to a more advanced surround setup?
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Thanks for the suggestions on speakers guys! How important are rear satellite's/bookshelf speakers really? The reason I ask is I don't have a way to run speaker wire to the back of this room without tearing into flooring/walls that I just had remodeled (AKA it's not happening) so for me to have rears they would have to be wireless. I'm not really an audiophile.... you think I would be happy with just a 3.1 setup rather than jump up to a more advanced surround setup?
3.1 can work very very well so start there.

Do you have electrical outlets where you might position speakers using a wireless kit?

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3.1 can work very very well so start there.

Do you have electrical outlets where you might position speakers using a wireless kit?
Yes there are plenty of outlets anywhere I would want to put rear speakers so that wouldn't be an issue. I have been looking into wireless kits a little but am not having a lot of luck finding one that is universally liked, or at least close to it. I've yet to find one that appears to be a slam dunk in quality, I don't know maybe I just don't know where to look....
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Yes there are plenty of outlets anywhere I would want to put rear speakers so that wouldn't be an issue. I have been looking into wireless kits a little but am not having a lot of luck finding one that is universally liked, or at least close to it. I've yet to find one that appears to be a slam dunk in quality, I don't know maybe I just don't know where to look....
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