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House wired with 12awg audio cable but system is 22 awg?

Hi all, I'm a total noob here requesting help. Our new house has 12 awg audio cable running in the walls and we want to connect our old Panasonic system which has 22 awg cables and 8mm connectors. Anyone can help? I need the connectors, and I'd like to know if going from 12 awg to 22 awg cable would work?
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You can always use larger gauge wire. 22ga is marginal at best, so in that respect you're better off.
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Thanks. Do you know how I could fit that 12 gauge wire into a tiny 8.2mm connector that originally fits 22 gauge wire?
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You could just carefully snip off strands until the 12 AWG fits. You could use banana plugs or pin plugs if they would fit. Or you can get wire nuts and splice in a couple of inches of 22 AWG wire to the end of the 12 AWG wire.
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Sorry again I'm a total noob, but here's what I have now in the back of my receiver (click)

And I got 12 awg coming out of the wall. I need a female connector to put at the end of the wire to be able to connect it there... or any other way to connect. Banana plugs and pin plugs don't look like they would work?

Thanks for the info
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You could just carefully snip off strands until the 12 AWG fits. Or you can get wire nuts and splice in a couple of inches of 22 AWG wire to the end of the 12 AWG wire.
+1, whatever those are on your receiver they're not generic connectors, they're something proprietary to Panasonic.
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So I could use the original wire/connector that came with the system and cut the (22 awg) wire a couple inches from the connector, and splice the 12 awg with the 22 awg with wire nuts. Does that make sense?

Another question : on the other end, where the 12 awg wire would go inside the speaker itself, the wire is (again) too big to fit in, so I could snip off a few strands? I'm not sure how that kind of signal works, but would I lose some sound quality, or since 12 is larger than 22 it's ok?
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Yes, just use the wire nuts. No, you won't lose any sound quality to speak of snipping strands at the other end.
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So I could use the original wire/connector that came with the system and cut the (22 awg) wire a couple inches from the connector, and splice the 12 awg with the 22 awg with wire nuts. Does that make sense?

Another question : on the other end, where the 12 awg wire would go inside the speaker itself, the wire is (again) too big to fit in, so I could snip off a few strands? I'm not sure how that kind of signal works, but would I lose some sound quality, or since 12 is larger than 22 it's ok?
So you have an HT system in a box with those connectors at both ends, receiver and speaker?
And, you want to speakers further than the 22ga will reach and want to use the in wall wires.

If you will splice the cable from the connector give yourself more than a couple of inches to work with, say cut 6" away and splice. Make sure you connect the two wires in phase, same color at each end with the connectors.
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So you have an HT system in a box with those connectors at both ends, receiver and speaker?
No I have a connector only at the end that connects to the receiver. The end that goes into the speaker is just the wire that you insert, no connector, hence the idea to snip off a few brands to make the 22ga fit into the speaker.
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No I have a connector only at the end that connects to the receiver. The end that goes into the speaker is just the wire that you insert, no connector, hence the idea to snip off a few brands to make the 22ga fit into the speaker.
OK, have the picture.
But, instead of cutting wire strands, I'd use something like this:

https://www.parts-express.com/cat/sp...terminals/1891
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Thanks, that's a great idea. So I just squeeze the wire into the female end, and the male end goes into the speaker? I'm guessing there's a way to stabilize/tighten the wire in the connector so that it doesn't fall off easily? Do you just use pliers?
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Those are what I called "pin plugs" in my first post. They come in various types, from solder to screw-on to using little set screws to hold the wire. Just follow the link @CharlesJ provided and read the various descriptions to see what would work best for you.

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House wired with 12awg audio cable but system is 22 awg?

Your image didn't work for me.

I'd use connectors that you fit onto the 12awg wire permanently. Sewell sells sets on Amazon (banana plug, others), as an alternative to those sold by Parts Express and Monoprice.

Didn't notice anyone asking, how LONG are your speaker runs? A HTiB may not have sufficient power to go a long distance efficiently.

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Very sorry for the delay, I was away.

I have approx 30 feet of wire. What do you think?
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