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Newbie speaker setup help

Here is my current Setup | 7.0 No Sub at the moment ...

Receiver - Onkyo NR-777
110W/Ch (8 ohms)

L/R Speakers - RTiA5:
Total Frequency Response: 30 Hz → 27 kHz
Lower and Upper -3dB Limits: 40 Hz → 26 kHz
Distance From Center Viewing: 13.7'

Center Speaker - CSiA4
Total Frequency Response: 55 Hz → 27 kHz
Lower and Upper -3dB Limits: 65 Hz → 26 kHz
Distance From Center Viewing: 12.6'

Side & Rear Surrounds (In Ceiling) - RC80i
Total Frequency Response: 35 Hz → 20 kHz
Lower and Upper -3dB Limits: 50 Hz → 20 kHz
Distance From Center Viewing: 9.8'(Sides) & 8'(Backs)

My Onkyo AccuEQ set the following up ...
Crossover
Front: Fullband
Center: 60Hz
Surround: 50Hz
Surround Back: 50z
LPF of LFE: 120Hz


I guess my question is, should I be modifying the volume of any of my speakers to be louder than another? Are the crossover frequencies correct? I feel like I'm not hearing much volume from the surround speakers but I am new to this and dont know what settings I should leave alone and what I should be playing with.

If there isnt a straight forward answer, is there a place I can go to get the basics of setting it up?

Thank you!

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Here is my current Setup | 7.0 No Sub at the moment ...



Receiver - Onkyo NR-777

110W/Ch (8 ohms)



L/R Speakers - RTiA5:

Total Frequency Response: 30 Hz → 27 kHz

Lower and Upper -3dB Limits: 40 Hz → 26 kHz



Center Speaker - CSiA4

Total Frequency Response: 55 Hz → 27 kHz

Lower and Upper -3dB Limits: 65 Hz → 26 kHz



Side & Rear Surrounds (In Ceiling) - RC80i

Total Frequency Response: 35 Hz → 20 kHz

Lower and Upper -3dB Limits: 50 Hz → 20 kHz



My Onkyo AccuEQ set the following up ...

Crossover

Front: Fullband

Center: 60Hz

Surround: 50Hz

Surround Back: 50z

LPF of LFE: 120Hz





I guess my question is, should I be modifying the volume of any of my speakers to be louder than another? Are the crossover frequencies correct? I feel like I'm not hearing much volume from the surround speakers but I am new to this and dont know what settings I should leave alone and what I should be playing with.



If there isnt a straight forward answer, is there a place I can go to get the basics of setting it up?



Thank you!


Looks fine so far while you dont have a sub. We need to see the channel volume sertings to see if anything strange there. Distances could help also.

Is the volume on surrounds and back low on test tones or only when watching something?


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I added distances to my initial post. The test tones seem fine (I'm not at home so can't verify at the moment). If I wanted them a tad louder without turning up the rest of the speakers is there an option for that? I can't seem to find it in the Onkyo menu's ...
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I dont know onkyo but its in there, probably under speakers or test tones.
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You adjust individual channel levels (trims) under SETUP>SPEAKER>LEVEL CALIBRATION.

However, I would recommend you NOT do this by ear, it can be very inaccurate. You need a C weighted SPL meter to do it properly. Using the internal test tones, you want all channels producing 75dB at the MLP (Main Listening Position) with the MV (Master Volume) set to "0" (using the Relative Scale, SETUP>VOLUME>VOLUME DISPLAY).
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Thanks Alan, do you have a suggested meter to use? Or would just one of the better sellers off Amazon do the trick?

I saw some Android app versions ... I assume these aren't worthwhile?
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Thanks Alan, do you have a suggested meter to use? Or would just one of the better sellers off Amazon do the trick?

I saw some Android app versions ... I assume these aren't worthwhile?

Apps are fine - they don't have to be totally accurate as you are just comparing each speaker. In other words if they show 80db at 0 Master Volume and they are really only putting out 70db then each speaker will still be putting out 70db and they will all be the same, which is what you are trying to achieve. You can then add 3db or so to the rear surrounds to adjust to suit your room/preference.



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Thanks Alan, do you have a suggested meter to use? Or would just one of the better sellers off Amazon do the trick?

I saw some Android app versions ... I assume these aren't worthwhile?
Concerning basic speaker levels, what niterida said above is true...a phone app will work.

If you want to be more accurate, you need an SPL meter and good ones start around $50. If you are going to spend $50+ on an SPL meter, I recommend you just go ahead and get a MiniDSP UMIK-1 ($75) and download Room EQ Wizard (free). You will then have a very accurate SPL meter along with the ability to measure your system (and much more).
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