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Regarding rattling there is zero rattling except for your ribs and no foreign sounds other than what is playing in the movie. The vibration you will feel is your body and the raiser designed as bass trap. and like i said in the above post at those volume levels with the orbitshifter firing away during intense bass demo scenes i told pennynike 1 to go ahead and touch any part he wanted in the theater like walls ceiling furniture etc and tell if he could hear or feel anything other than the movie and he could not and was impressed.

It's funny I used to think I had no interest in a fancy dedicated theater room but reading posts like this make me wish I did something else for a living. smile.gif My drywall feels like I'm in the middle of an earthquake when I put my hand on the wall during a bass heavy scene.
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*It was inevitable* let the discussion on how to add more subs commence.

Hahaha, sorry 'bout that. redface.gif We (bass heads) just can't help ourselves.... all discussions turn into bass/subs talk eventually. biggrin.gif
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Question for you - do you have a pretty good bass frequency response throughout the room or do you ever think about getting a second Orbit Shifter to smooth out the bass?


Yes i do need a second one, but most of my friends think i am nuts to get another one after feeling the power of the orbitshifter, so short answer eventually i will be going for more sub!
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*It was inevitable* let the discussion on how to add more subs commence.

lol! biggrin.gif
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*It was inevitable* let the discussion on how to add more subs commence.

lol! biggrin.gif

Guilty, sorry, being bass addicted, especially without the full works in house, is hard. Vik, as I said before that is a gorgeous setup you have! Never mind about me wanting more bass....
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Oh no, don't mind me. I'm self aware that I'm traveling the road towards being one myself. The road will be a bit longer im afraid as we don't have basements here in San Diego except in rare instances wink.gif
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Thanks, i am thinking in the same lines currently.

When you upgrade, put your 6020 up for sale here at AVS. I might buy it!
Great build and congratulations on getting your dream. I did the same, but it's a lot more modest than yours. smile.gif
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I don't see how a projector "upgrade" will improve the movie experience.

That seating distance and screen size, going with UltraHD probably wont make much if any difference in picture detail.

I use a "cheap" Optoma HD33 and after calibration, I can't really see it getting any better. Black levels could be improved with a bit less screen gain. The step up from my projector to the one used in this theater might be a slightly noticeable jump. An upgrade from there will get into diminishing returns quickly.

The only thing that would tempt me to upgrade would be a laser or LED based projector with a dual lens/passive 3d glasses setup if it came in at under $2000.
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Now She does not even know that just after she falls asleep i am sneaking out of the bed in the middle of the night, and get myself a fix by cranking it on most days biggrin.gif

Hope she does not read this post eek.gif

Taken in isolation, that sentence just sounds soooo wrong!

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So I'm also curious how you decided to feed in the climate control?



(Or did you just opt for those rotary subs? biggrin.gif)
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It is simple, OS equals 4 cap sealed drivers above 20hz. 4 cap sealed drivers have little more output than 4 sealed SI drivers, 23 mm vs 30 mm. So maybe 2-3 dBs, pop has 16. Measurements are key as subjective feel may not add up and be placebo.

Again, very nice theater.

I don't think 1 awesome sub can compete with 4 subs decent subs. You just don't get the constancy you get with multiple subs.
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When you upgrade, put your 6020 up for sale here at AVS. I might buy it!
Great build and congratulations on getting your dream. I did the same, but it's a lot more modest than yours. smile.gif

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sure i will keep you in mind! smile.gif
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So I'm also curious how you decided to feed in the climate control?



(Or did you just opt for those rotary subs? biggrin.gif)


Lol! I have two separate furnaces, one for the basement and ground level and one for the upper level. all the supplies and returns from the theater are connected to the basement furnace. I made sure no sound escapes to other rooms which the furnace supplies by using long runs of convoluted acoustic flex ducts to the theater and also lining all the main ducts near the theater with linacoustic inside the duct and acoustic duct wrap outside. Also again inside the theater the supplies and returns run through soffits which are lined by linacoustic.
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Oh no, don't mind me. I'm self aware that I'm traveling the road towards being one myself. The road will be a bit longer im afraid as we don't have basements here in San Diego except in rare instances wink.gif

West coast in general doesn't have basements, don't need 'em for earthquakes like you do tornadoes smile.gif I grew up in Illinois and was amazed at the lack of basements when I moved to the west coast....
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I don't see how a projector "upgrade" will improve the movie experience.

That seating distance and screen size, going with UltraHD probably wont make much if any difference in picture detail.

I use a "cheap" Optoma HD33 and after calibration, I can't really see it getting any better. Black levels could be improved with a bit less screen gain. The step up from my projector to the one used in this theater might be a slightly noticeable jump. An upgrade from there will get into diminishing returns quickly.

The only thing that would tempt me to upgrade would be a laser or LED based projector with a dual lens/passive 3d glasses setup if it came in at under $2000.

Yes, that is what i am interested in too! When the offerings come out in the future and if i feel its worth it, i wont mind spending some extra dough though!
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But there is still 6000 real watts going into 6 12" high excursion drivers as well (Minus whatever the tweeter needs, which isn't too much). While not on par with Pop's below 20hz, I could see it within 3db above 20hz, and this one might have a room gain advantage. Above the sub crossover, this should leave Pop's behind.

MKTheater I assume you have had Cat12c's in your room ? Or was that JTR's ?

Remember that was a special DSP setup that Mark did for that one event. He did that because at that GTG they were running all speakers full range with no sub. The 12C and JTR speakers are not really designed to perform best that way. Unless the 12C's were set up to go full range, then they would not be adding much to the bass and I am 99.9% sure the 12C's were not set up for full range. The 12C's are probably crossing at 80hz to the sub.

Congrats Vik you put together a great HT. 4K time should be getting closer. smile.gif
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Turned out great Vik, I am truly impressed with the quality of work.
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Wow, very impressed with this HT! I remember seeing this build thread and the end results is fantastic looking!

I am sure the sights and sounds are fantastic too!

Maybe we can get together and go visit for a demo one of these days biggrin.gif

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Great room Vik!!! Congratulation on the forum's recognition. I definitely like your TRUE soundproofed room, equipment can always be upgraded (and it will).

I do like Epson projectors too. Although with all the new 4K projectors coming out, lets see what Epson comes out with. I recently audition a Sony 4K ($65,000) and It looks fantastic, so might as well wait a little until the UHD/4K technology settles.

Great room!
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i just got a Epson 6020,havent hooked it up yet chronic old man back,its been 3 weeks & its driving me crazy not hooking it up yet!!! that guys theater is great!!
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Excellent work vikgrao! I bet it sounds amazing in there.

Whats your favorite demo to show off your theater?

BTW - Thanks for going UltraWide! biggrin.gif
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Great room Vik!!! Congratulation on the forum's recognition. I definitely like your TRUE soundproofed room, equipment can always be upgraded (and it will).

I do like Epson projectors too. Although with all the new 4K projectors coming out, lets see what Epson comes out with. I recently audition a Sony 4K ($65,000) and It looks fantastic, so might as well wait a little until the UHD/4K technology settles.

Great room!

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Excellent work vikgrao! I bet it sounds amazing in there.

Whats your favorite demo to show off your theater?

BTW - Thanks for going UltraWide! biggrin.gif


Yes i will wait a little untill the 4k projection systems and 4k material becomes common place in the homes but like i said i am very interested in the laser projectors. To demo the theater for 3D i usually use scenes from all the popular reference 3D movies like imax under the sea, avatar etc, and coming to movie clips i use scenes from " super leo", scuba steve and Jindrak's and recently avs member pennynike 1's demo discs big thanks to them.
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Great to see your theater featured here Vik, and to Jeff as well for the hard work he put in.

As for the photos, well while it is absolutely beautiful, nothing beats seeing it, and experiencing it in person. Truly, truly a fantastic theater. Oh, and to the red carpet naysayers, I can personally attest to the carpet NOT being any type of distraction.

To the poster commenting on the use of DUAL Orbit Shifters? My, my, my.........not sure the locals could handle the local seismic shift of the local topography if two of those were employed.

Congrats Vik and Jeff, you earned it.

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Very tastefully done ,not over done, on the décor. Thanks for sharing your theater with us. Enjoy !

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To the poster commenting on the use of DUAL Orbit Shifters? My, my, my.........not sure the locals could handle the local seismic shift of the local topography if two of those were employed.



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Ha, yeah I've experienced dual OS's and it is truly insane - it's like crazy car bass inside a room. However, my point was that adding a second would really help smooth out the bass frequency response for all the seats in the room, so it's not all about going crazy since you would get the benefits even at low volumes.
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So I'm also curious how you decided to feed in the climate control?



(Or did you just opt for those rotary subs? biggrin.gif)


Lol! I have two separate furnaces, one for the basement and ground level and one for the upper level. all the supplies and returns from the theater are connected to the basement furnace. I made sure no sound escapes to other rooms which the furnace supplies by using long runs of convoluted acoustic flex ducts to the theater and also lining all the main ducts near the theater with linacoustic inside the duct and acoustic duct wrap outside. Also again inside the theater the supplies and returns run through soffits which are lined by linacoustic.

Wow. No detail missed. Truly an amazing build!
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Oh no, don't mind me. I'm self aware that I'm traveling the road towards being one myself. The road will be a bit longer im afraid as we don't have basements here in San Diego except in rare instances wink.gif



West coast in general doesn't have basements, don't need 'em for earthquakes like you do tornadoes smile.gif I grew up in Illinois and was amazed at the lack of basements when I moved to the west coast....

One of our friends has 1920s craftsmen downtown and they actually spent a small fortune recently to ADD a basement. I didn't even know you could do that.
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Amazing theater. I feel pretty proud that I have a virtually identical screen (DIY ~138' 2.35:1 curved using Seymour XD). I know it sounds pretty expensive, but honestly, 100k for the build plus the amazing sound and video isn't that bad, is it? Those speakers, man. I think about that scene in The Italian Job and wonder if those speakers would blow a woman's clothes off. One can hope. smile.gif
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Wow....great room.

Wish I could afford something like this. Well, I guess most guys wish the same thing tongue.gif
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As a fellow physician, also with a physician wife like Vikram, I cannot more than applaud their endeavor.
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$100K and the 6020, ok then...
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$100K and the 6020, ok then...

I don't understand the grief over the 6020, it seems to merely be a place holder for when something newer comes down the line. A greater portion of the money was spent on the SPACE, which is WAY harder to change then unplugging and replacing a projector in the future. Vik did things the smart way, he obviously could have dropped $20k on a projector if he wanted too but with the way things are changing he made the smart call and got something that fits his current needs with plenty of room for upgrading in the next year or two.

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