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View Poll Results: Is Your Main Display Fully Calibrated?
Yes, I paid a pro calibrator to do it 65 16.13%
Yes, I calibrated it myself 166 41.19%
No, but I set the basic picture controls 135 33.50%
No, but I selected the movie or cinema mode 28 6.95%
No, I watch it with out-of-the-box settings 9 2.23%
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post #61 of 101 Old 10-25-2014, 09:36 PM
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Well ... consider the waters in which we swim. We are *not* representative of the public at large. Peeps come here for a reason.
This is quite true, we are the Anandtech of the Audio/Video forum world.

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I usually take settings I find here as a starting point and then tweak using a Cincinnati Reds baseball game. Sounds silly, but if you can dial in the red of their particular uniform and the green of the home field grass, I find everything else at that point falls in to line real nice. Everyone that's seen my 70in screen loves the color so that's all that counts, right?
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I am obviously not a purist at all. I probably don't even belong here lol.

I calibrated my Epson HC6100 according to Arts recommendations at pjreviews.com. My first bulb only lasted 800 hours, and I'm over 2000 hours on my 2nd bulb. As the image started to get darker I found myself preferring a brighter image. So I run the PJ in living room mode almost all the time. This is in a dark room with black ceiling and front wall, dark red side walls and NO windows. (Pics taken with my nexus 5)


My 46" Sony TV has never been calibrated. Just checked and we run it in... Lol game mode. I don't watch the Sony much.

And the 32" Vizio bedroom TV is not calibrated at all. Probably still on out of the box settings.

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My HW40es looks good out of the box also

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Since I dont have calibration hardware, only calibration disc like WoW and the likes, I picked I set the basic settings, I feel thats more honest then saying I calibrated it myself.

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Since I dont have calibration hardware, only calibration disc like WoW and the likes, I picked I set the basic settings, I feel thats more honest then saying I calibrated it myself.
I voted the same as you for the same reason.
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With the WOW Blu-ray - use the Basic settings. Have always found the Advanced settings to be wrong, as confirmed by using the S&M 2 Blu-ray and Calman.
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I voted "out of the box" but went through the DVE disc where I found that the calibration was pretty spot on to start with. PJ is the JVC 4910 from our best salesmen right here at AVS!!!
Th 4910 IS awesome but not "correct" out of the box. I just calibrated one last week. They are good but need the proper setup.
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Can anyone recommend a Calibrator in Plano TX?
I have a Sharp LC-80LE857U.
I calibrated it using a configuration published in the Sharp AVS Forum which made it much better but this TV Definitely needs a professional calibration.
I was going to do Best Buy Geek Squad but for some reason I do not have much confidence in anything Best Buy.

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Picked up the Disney WOW disc, but haven't sat down with it yet. There're also a whole mess of other sub settings on my HDTV besides the color/brightness/contrast/sharpness etc. which I don't know the function of.
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Can anyone recommend a Calibrator in Plano TX?
I have a Sharp LC-80LE857U.
I calibrated it using a configuration published in the Sharp AVS Forum which made it much better but this TV Definitely needs a professional calibration.
I was going to do Best Buy Geek Squad but for some reason I do not have much confidence in anything Best Buy.

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I paid a pro calibrator to come out and calibrate my set. It was money well spent.
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I've calibrated all of my own displays as well as friends and families and even have done a few paid jobs which is nice because it offsets the cost of the equipment and software.

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I have learned to do my own calibration.

I see a lot of posts mentioning the need for a trained professional and thousands and dollars worth of equipment. And, I understand and respect that view. I've met some professional calibrators though this forum and loved to get to know them.

However, I also respect those who want to learn and DIY. I can appreciate both the pros and the DIY-ers.

Having a projector, I think everyone who owns a projector should try to master calibration techniques... It can change with the age of a bulb and with every new bulb (or with any new screen or room configuration.)

Finally, the cost for the DIY has gone WAY down and the tools have gotten WAY better... I'm even a bit behind the latest techniques...that's ok too. Nothing wrong with having MORE to possible learn.

The main reason I DIY is I enjoy the process and the learning ... I have had my PJ professionally calibrated before ... I still prefer to tune things myself.

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I have a Panny 65 VT50. I originally calibrated the basic controls using a disc. I waited a year before finally deciding to have it pro calibrated. I thought the picture was good before but the difference was night and day. Now the display really pops. VERY pleased with this panel.


That being said, pro calibration depends on the set you buy and how "anal" you are about it. I am rather so hence why I spent good money on a display. However, if you spend under 1000 dollars on a display, I assume your requirements aren't so stringent so a 300-400 dollar pro calibration may not be cost effective for you.
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No, but I set the basic picture controls - I see this category is catching up to us DIYers!
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Gary Seven has a good point. If you spent $3000+ on your primary display an additional 10% is not a big deal particularly if you amortize the cost over the years of service. I will never have a primary set that isn't pro calibrated unless a manufacturer sells a display already calibrated.
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Does anyone know of a good calibrator in Fort Collins, CO?

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No, but I set the basic picture controls - I see this category is catching up to us DIYers!
And I suspect, although I have no proof, that some of the DIYers should have actually voted "setting basic controls" if all they had was a set-up disc.
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And what of us who use Movie or cinema mode but also tweak the advanced settings ?

In my understanding, basic settings means contrast, brightness and the like, and heck, even my mom set those.
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To get the most accurate image on your TV or projector, it must be fully calibrated. Have you taken that step toward video nirvana?

Video displays rarely come out of the box looking their best. I always recommend that you select the display's movie or cinema picture mode and use a setup disc such as High-Definition Benchmark, Digital Video Essentials: HD Basics, or Disney's World of Wonder (WOW) to set the basic picture controls.

This gets the display relatively close to its best performance, but to get even closer, you must calibrate the display's grayscale and colorimetry if the necessary controls are available in the menu system. (I distinguish "calibration" and "setup" in this way: the former adjusts the grayscale and colorimetry using test equipment, while the latter is done by eye using one of the setup discs.) You can hire a professional to perform the calibration at a cost of several hundred dollars, or you can do it yourself if you have the required equipment, software, and training, which can cost thousands of dollars. But for those of us who want to wring every last drop of performance from our displays, it's money well spent.

Have you had your main display's grayscale and color fully calibrated? If so, did you hire a pro to do it, or did you do it yourself? If not, why not?

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I have an RS1 which is essentially unfixable and can't wait to dump it when I move in a few weeks. I'm going to the new JVC/Sony LCOS (55 or 4910) .

Ironically, my older projector gave me a better picture. It didnt' have the RS1's contrast ratio but the color was so spot on and watchable. I loved it so much I gave it to my brother instead of dumping that one. The projector the JVC HX2 and the secret sauce was that William Phelps went through his process of calibrating the panels. W/ the RS1 JVC locked Phelps out and it wasn't possible to get that kind of treatment or I'd have done it.

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I have in the past paid for a full calibration. Even the best pro can't fix a cantankerous display like above mentioned RS1. One can only do what they can do. Jeff Meir told me not to buy the display I have and from his point of view I can understand that. The color decoding is problematical to say the least. That was 3 years ago and we were just on the advent of consumer availability of 3D LUT in the Radiance line.


But the reality is my display responded extremely well to a Lumagen XS and ChromaPure. I bought a used i1 spectro to profile my i1 display pro.


About 30 minutes of automation gets an excellent result that is probably impossible using the displays CMS even if you have Jeff M or Chad B hired to twist the dials.


dEs are all under 1 for 125 color points in the XS 3D LUT. Nice thing about having a meter and a Lumagen is that a touchup is easy and ChromaPure keeps getting faster and better at auto-calibration. My skills have only improved slightly as DIYer but the software just gets better and better.
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Has anyone got a pro calibration and not thought it was worth it? Either saw no difference or did not feel the difference was enough to justify the cost?


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And what of us who use Movie or cinema mode but also tweak the advanced settings ?

In my understanding, basic settings means contrast, brightness and the like, and heck, even my mom set those.
selecting a display mode is part of the basic settings.

just switching the mode is simply less than switching the mode and change things like brightness. and i'm pretty sure it is meant to change the basic settings based on a test disc or something like that.

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Video displays rarely come out of the box looking their best. I always recommend that you select the display's movie or cinema picture mode and use a setup disc such as High-Definition Benchmark, Digital Video Essentials: HD Basics, or Disney's World of Wonder (WOW) to set the basic picture controls.

This gets the display relatively close to its best performance, but to get even closer, you must calibrate the display's grayscale and colorimetry if the necessary controls are available in the menu system. (I distinguish "calibration" and "setup" in this way: the former adjusts the grayscale and colorimetry using test equipment, while the latter is done by eye using one of the setup discs.)
I hope the different between changing the mode to cinema or basic settings in this vote is now clear.
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Has anyone got a pro calibration and not thought it was worth it? Either saw no difference or did not feel the difference was enough to justify the cost?


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Yes, had a THX Certified calibrator charge me $908 for less than satisfactory calibration on 3 TVs. (More like an almost disaster!)
It did get me pissed off enough that I learned to do it myself. The calibration software in the last 4 years has gotten incredibly better, leading to Magnifico results! Add in VQs, and AutoCal makes it even better. and easier.
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I have a Panny 65 VT50. I originally calibrated the basic controls using a disc. I waited a year before finally deciding to have it pro calibrated. I thought the picture was good before but the difference was night and day. Now the display really pops. VERY pleased with this panel.


That being said, pro calibration depends on the set you buy and how "anal" you are about it. I am rather so hence why I spent good money on a display. However, if you spend under 1000 dollars on a display, I assume your requirements aren't so stringent so a 300-400 dollar pro calibration may not be cost effective for you.

Gary I spent a little over 2 grand on my 55W900A so a spending a little more to have it professionally calibrated was worth it to me. Now if I were to buy a cheaper model I wouldnt have wasted my time and just fiddled with the settings myself until it looked good to me. If you want to have your tv calibrated great but if not thats ok to.
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Has anyone got a pro calibration and not thought it was worth it? Either saw no difference or did not feel the difference was enough to justify the cost?


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Proper calibration is about getting a decent representation of the source (cable, blu-ray etc..) on your TV which you will not get out of the box, by doing some tweaking or by using a ''calibration'' disc.

Most people are not used to what such a picture looks like, because they grown up with dads or mums preference, and might find it ugly.
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I had my Panny 800U, VT25 and VT60 all professionally calibrated, as well as my JVC RS1, RS2 and RS20...Projectors.
All showed a good improvement over out of the box default setting.

Just my $.02
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