Originally Posted by staindrocks
I'm a blue/black person, i've never seen it any other way. It baffles me anybody can see it as white/gold, particularly with the white. ...
But addressing your quoted statement, your pic with the neutral gray background completely alters what i see. Top color is now gold (actually somewhere between a muddy flat gold and bronze), but i still see the same light blue as the original pic.
Congratulations, this description fairly represents what us white/golders see for the original image. I'm pretty sure I speak for all of us W/Gs in that we never claimed the white part was a pure
white. It definitely has a bluish element to it but that is not at all uncommon when the white balance of the camera is off, or if say illuminated by moon light, and we mentally discount that in our perceptual image.
This scientific principle is called "discounting the illuminant". It means our brain assumes the light source was not
a pure white, it almost never is, so we have to discount the manner in which it alters the color. Bluish light falling on a white dress causes that lower half of my dress color. I'd say it looks like a gallon of white paint with a cup or two of blue paint mixed in. The result is a very pale blue.
You black/bluers, B/B, see the lower half of the dress as "reality", it is blue to you, you anchor on that, and you are mentally discounting an alteration to the dress [pun intended] in whatever that other
This is at least one of the main theories floating around but I'd like to know why is this the first, actual photograph, discovered in 2015, in which we have discovered that people seem to so squarely fall into two camps.
To the best of my knowledge scientists don't even have a CGI test pattern for us to all look at which exposes this exact dichotomy concept, that is, an image where they can predict "the W/Gs are going to claim this
when they look at it, whereas the B/Bs are going to claim this other
So if you were trying to prove that visual cues such as lighting, backgrounds, etc. make a big difference in how we see things, then your edited pic does a great job of showing that.
Thanks. My main goal was to show B/Bs what the other camp sees.
The dress appears to be "light blue", to me
, for the same reason the coffee urn in example B, here, looks "light blue":
But I get how your camp doesn't see it that way and thinks this example I just gave is silly.