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post #61 of 102 Old 08-12-2015, 02:23 PM
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Fantastic theater, I love it!

Clicked on the link to the video to see more and it was even better. It just left me with one question though:

How do you put in a new disc into the Oppo since it's located behind the screen? Do you have to take the screen off every time you want to change a disc or did I miss something?

Again, congratulations on Home Theater of the Month!

I can access behind the screen via open holes on each side of the screen wall.

Screen never has to come down for anything but speaker sized equipment.

But... I do not use the Oppo as a Disk Player. I use it as a digital media player and I store all my movies on an external 15TB NAS.

So I never need to go behind the screen and that is good for someone like me who is very OCD about keeping things clean and dust free.

If you look closely at the picture there are curtains on both the left and right side of the screen that are covering the side entrance ways to the back.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/imageh...52445e77ec.jpg is the best picture to see the side entrances.

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Damn the theater is awesome! I like the name as well because if I was sucked into that room, I wouldn't want to leave!

Congrats on the HTotM!
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Very nice!

I have a similar sized room and am debating about a second row and risers. My room is also 8' high, so I'm concerned about the ceiling height above the risers. What height were your risers and are there issues with headroom for the people getting into and out of the second row?

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Very nice!

I have a similar sized room and am debating about a second row and risers. My room is also 8' high, so I'm concerned about the ceiling height above the risers. What height were your risers and are there issues with headroom for the people getting into and out of the second row?

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Height in 2nd row is only 6 feet.

If I where to do this over again I would probably do a sitting bar and not a second row with riser.

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Height in 2nd row is only 6 feet.

If I where to do this over again I would probably do a sitting bar and not a second row with riser.

Thanks, so you'd be limiting the viewer count to 3? This is exactly my issue. I can do 3 chairs across max. So only way to get more (only need rarely), I'd have to have a second row

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Thanks, so you'd be limiting the viewer count to 3? This is exactly my issue. I can do 3 chairs across max. So only way to get more (only need rarely), I'd have to have a second row
If you do theater seats like this you can probably fit 4.



Also a sitting bar behind the first row would allow 4 more seats too.


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If you do theater seats like this you can probably fit 4.



Also a sitting bar behind the first row would allow 4 more seats too.

Now I see what you mean.

I wouldn't be willing to give up the big comfy chairs with wide arms to squeeze more chairs in (would be like going to AMC )

Not sure I (or anyone else) would want to sit on a bar stool for a 2hour+ movie.

Current plan is to order 3 chairs and make temp risers of different heights in order to see what (if anything!) works for a second row

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The highest compliment I can pay to the room is that it made me- once again- reconsider a dedicated theater room over a "family/sports/theater area". I simply do not have the time, money, or space for both, so it is very hard for me go your route as it obviously comes with some sacrifice...but yours is superbly done and reminds me that mine- while will likely be excellent in many regards- will never offer that true, complete, "movie theater" experience. Oh well.

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Super nice, great infrastructure build

I can just imagine the great screen images and super audio- I watch a lot of concert videos and I bet an excellent BD concert in your room is fantastic.
In my HT, from the seating forward is also distraction-free, and I chose two-tone brown instead of black except for around the screen and ceiling.
I have a small bar seating behind a single row of four seats - my room is only 13' wide. Here's photo for those interested. I have a vertical support beam that I had to work around. The swivel bar seat are very comfortable and great for watching sports and snacking.
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Congrats! As others have said, it's very cool how the black on black worked out. I like that from the screen's perspective, it's very non-contaminating.

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For those who may be wondering: this is what it looks like without the brightness of the image turned up.


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Congrats! As others have said, it's very cool how the black on black worked out. I like that from the screen's perspective, it's very non-contaminating.

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You just like it because it houses one of your screens...
Well it is like seeing your kid in the newspaper, but it's still cool. Who couldn't admire this build?

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Well it is like seeing your kid in the newspaper, but it's still cool. Who couldn't admire this build?

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You mentioned you do the zoom method - but the 40ES has manual zoom. So for every movie/game/tv change you adjust the lens manually?
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You mentioned you do the zoom method - but the 40ES has manual zoom. So for every movie/game/tv change you adjust the lens manually?
For now. But I tend to watch mostly 2.35:1 most of the time.

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For those who may be wondering: this is what it looks like without the brightness of the image turned up.

Yeah, I turned the brightness up in that shot so people could see the wide speakers and more detail in the room. But this unretouched photo shows how dark it is in there—very nice!
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Congratulations! It's a great looking room with some really nice equipment.
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Stunning and beautiful! Congratulations on building a class act.
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Here is a view from the best seat in the house!
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Love the theater! Especially the "black hole" aspect. I am wondering what methods you used to "black out" your theater. From what I can see you used black paint and a dark carpeting. Are you still experiencing any reflection off of your walls, floor, or ceiling? I have read that fabrics such as the Fidelio Black Velvet are great for this sort of application, have you tried such a product? I would love to have a theater screen that floats in an otherwise pitch black room.
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Love the theater! Especially the "black hole" aspect. I am wondering what methods you used to "black out" your theater. From what I can see you used black paint and a dark carpeting. Are you still experiencing any reflection off of your walls, floor, or ceiling? I have read that fabrics such as the Fidelio Black Velvet are great for this sort of application, have you tried such a product? I would love to have a theater screen that floats in an otherwise pitch black room.
Thank you for the nice comment.

The Screen Boarder is Fidelio Black Velvet
The walls are the darkest flat black paint I could find
The trim and crown molding is semi-gloss black
The area around the screen is black fleece wrapped in insulation
The large pads in the front of the screen are also wrapped in black fleece
The Sound Absorbers are the black material provided by the company that makes them

I like the idea of slightly different blacks and textures as it allows you to still "see" the room.

I would think if someone wrapped the entire room or the entire front stage with Fidelio Black Velvet it would be the best for performance, but not allow you too see any details of the room or screen wall. Mostly a cosmetic choice. A true "Black Hole" would be the entire room wrapped in the Fidelio Black Velvet.

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Cool

awesome build!

That's my projector and sub. Happy listening and viewing.

I like the focused approach. No frills just pure function and class!!!
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Funny how you learn things from the thread. I have been to the theater and yet many posts back (sorry to be lazy to copy) made me realize why the black theater can work great. It's not perfectly black small subtle changes in shade purposefully positioned to create a very "cool" experience. For me, a guy with a multi purpose room, let me say I would throw a party in this room any day od the week and it would be awesome!
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It's not perfectly black small subtle changes in shade purposefully poisoned to create a very "cool" experience.
I don't think black felt can get any darker?
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I don't think black felt can get any darker?
it can but not sure that has anything to do with what I posted? If you look at the pics you can easily see everything is not the same color. It is well thought out and purposeful and an all perfectly black room is draining in a way that is hard to describe (emotion/mood). I know for fun it is called the black hole but subtle differences between the blackest blacks and dark shades of grey are very effective to not suck the life out of the room yet give an impressive immersive experience,IMO.
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an all perfectly black room is draining in a way that is hard to describe (emotion/mood). .
Exact reason why I advise people not to wrap the whole room in one super dark material.

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It reminds me of the Death Star interior. That only leaves question to who SOWK really is and what are his true intentions.
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Exact reason why I advise people not to wrap the whole room in one super dark material.
A heavy lifeless feeling?
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