Originally Posted by JeffCar
Ian, one question if you don't mind. I am very concerned about the non-replaceable battery, and given the remote's cost (and my frugal nature) I'd like to make this thing last as long as possible. The manual recommends putting the remote back in the charger after use, and while that certainly avoids the possibility of a drained battery, I am thinking it is not so good for longevity of the battery. As I understand it, Lion batteries have a number of advantages over other types, but hit a proverbial and literal wall after XX number of charging cycles and cannot be recharged. Is that the case here? If so, is it better to have the remote sit out of the cradle until it really needs to be charged rather than "wasting" the charge cycle? What is the expected life of the battery (and therefore the remote if the battery is non-replaceable)?
One more thing. many here seem to have a real problem with the fast forward / skip features, and frankly, when I was reading about the unit before I had it in hand, I did too. That is where the Ultimate is much improved over the Touch as well (IMHO) in that the gesture feature is very accessible with a quick upward swipe, and it defaults to a skip on a a quick swipe from left to right across the screen..... even better than finding buttons from my ergonomic viewpoint. So far I am really really liking the Ultimate!!
Jeff, there are instructions in the warranty document that explain how to remove the battery for disposal at once the remote has reached it's end of life. While Logitech may not officially support it, I wouldn't be surprised if someone somewhere sells replacement batteries for it at some point. Also, I can't believe you stuck with a Pronto that long. That's dedication. I had a Yamaha remote that was based on the Pronto, this was around 2000 or 2001. It was nice, but I really missed having a good number of hard buttons, and the screen just wasn't that great. But you sure could customize that any way you wanted, and it wasn't really that hard to program.
I'm going to have to try that swipe control you mentioned, I haven't actually tried any of those yet, other than accidentally changing the volume when I tried the Android app.
Originally Posted by vagos1103gr1
I received my harmony yesterday, it's a nice control with easy set up but can't control my rf motorized screen. It's an 100" 16:9 Electric Projector Projection Screen 87X49 Rc Motorized Diagonal Matte with rf remote but I can't control it with the ultimate. Any clue anybody?
Pretty sure it won't do that. I'm almost certain RF is only between the remote and the hub, and the hub can control specific devices such as the PS3 via bluetooth. Some previous Harmony devices that had RF, such as the 890, also supported Z-Wave, but not this one.
Last night I decided to just use the remote, and not spend any time working on the configuration. I wanted to just give it a go with my day-to-day usage and get past my initial aggravation at it's shortcomings. I found it very easy to use. I had to keep reminding myself that I wasn't using my AR remote which required a lot of hard presses because of its flaky buttons and often the RF wouldn't work. The Harmony RF signal worked well from my seating location and with the hub in a rack in the other room. Signals were processed correctly almost every time. Off the top of my head I can't think of when it didn't, I'm sure it missed one or two, but that tends to happen with IR no matter what.
The remote feels very good in my hand. It's lighter than what I'm used to, and smaller. It feels good though, I don't feel like the light weight implies cheapness at all. The underside has a very nice texture to it, and the various contours work well to allow you to hold it steady, and move it easily to access the top buttons. Once you adjust to the button placement it'll be quite easy to operate it without looking. The button presses feel good, and the haptic feedback on long presses works well.
In all, as far as usability of the remote itself, I have only two complaints, one big, one small. I do think the lack of dedication skip/back buttons is bad. I'm sure I can work around it, but I think the decision to remove those was very shortsighted. The small complaint is that the top surface/touch screen is rather glossy and is going to show a lot of fingerprints. There may not be much that could be done about that of course.
Other than that, I like it. It's a good size, the button placement is pretty good, the lack of a physical keypad doesn't matter to me at all. Having the transport buttons well away from everything else should reduce accidental presses of other keys. I already prefer using it to any of my prior remotes.