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“Gravity” has the best Dolby Atmos soundtrack

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I watched Gravity last night with guests at -3dB in my HT. It’s been probably three years since I watched it last, and my previous viewing was on a different AVR with different speakers. The Atmos sound with 13 matching speakers blew me away. The object panning was seamless and constant. Great use of silence too, right after dynamic blasts of sound. Incredible sound design, even from the first 30 seconds of the movie. I think it’s probably the best sound design of any movie I’ve heard. Masterclass!

Other notables favorite Atmos mixes I love:
BladeRunner 2049
Spider-Man - Into the Spider-Verse
Mad Max: Fury Road
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I can’t believe what people are paying for that Blu-ray version. They better take it while they can as the UHD is out this fall.
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I can’t believe what people are paying for that Blu-ray version. They better take it while they can as the UHD is out this fall.
You have a link for the UHD release info?
You have a link for the UHD release info?
Seems like there was something on a separate thread but they linked to this as well.
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I watched Gravity last night with guests at -3dB in my HT. It’s been probably three years since I watched it last, and my previous viewing was on a different AVR with different speakers. The Atmos sound with 13 matching speakers blew me away. The object panning was seamless and constant. Great use of silence too, right after dynamic blasts of sound. Incredible sound design, even from the first 30 seconds of the movie. I think it’s probably the best sound design of any movie I’ve heard. Masterclass!

Other notables favorite Atmos mixes I love:
BladeRunner 2049
Spider-Man - Into the Spider-Verse
Mad Max: Fury Road
The Diamond Luxe Edition!
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I watched Gravity last night with guests at -3dB in my HT. It’s been probably three years since I watched it last, and my previous viewing was on a different AVR with different speakers. The Atmos sound with 13 matching speakers blew me away. The object panning was seamless and constant. Great use of silence too, right after dynamic blasts of sound. Incredible sound design, even from the first 30 seconds of the movie. I think it’s probably the best sound design of any movie I’ve heard. Masterclass!

Other notables favorite Atmos mixes I love:
BladeRunner 2049
Spider-Man - Into the Spider-Verse
Mad Max: Fury Road
What's crazy is you're not the only one who feels this way about MMFR, but "stop the Fomo" on youtube (pro reviewer) says the height channels are barely utilized outside of the opening sequence, and that it was clear the atmos mixers for MMFR were not even given the full sound effects or soundtrack (I forget exactly) to work with for the atmos track on that.

I dont have my atmos up yet to see for myself, but any idea why the disparity in opinions? Is it possible it just has really good music and bed layer effects and bass, to the point that even though the height channels themselves are poorly done, it's still one of the most enjoyable overall? Or would you disagree with the idea that the height channels are poorly done in the first place?
What's crazy is you're not the only one who feels this way about MMFR, but "stop the Fomo" on youtube (pro reviewer) says the height channels are barely utilized outside of the opening sequence, and that it was clear the atmos mixers for MMFR were not even given the full sound effects or soundtrack (I forget exactly) to work with for the atmos track on that.

I dont have my atmos up yet to see for myself, but any idea why the disparity in opinions? Is it possible it just has really good music and bed layer effects and bass, to the point that even though the height channels themselves are poorly done, it's still one of the most enjoyable overall? Or would you disagree with the idea that the height channels are poorly done in the first place?
Height channels sound like they are constantly on or at the ready with Dolby Atmos on this film.
Voices circling, music, radio, debris, debris circling, debris music flying overhead, parachute deploy, water, insects.

I didn’t turn off my height channels and replay with just the bed, but others have. I just was reading up on some reviews on the Atmos soundtrack in the last couple hours. The reviews I read by searching Gravity + Atmos all basically echo that it’s a champion mix, and a far cry better than the standard DTS mix.

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For Mad Max: Fury Road, the opening scene is one of my demos I play near every time someone comes to my house. The intro is rife with height channels sounds. From ghostly voices, to cars flying overhead. That intro can make a HT spectator turn into a I want to purchase now enthusiast. I couldn’t tell you how much of the movie has height channel information as once again I never just turned off the bed channels to test. I know there are some movies that are mixed so well you think there must be ceiling speaker action and there isn’t. American Sniper’s dust storm scene comes to mind. I did test with that one because I read the heights weren’t very active. I physically unhooked all the other speakers and just left heights and played the dust storm shootout scene and the heights weren’t doing anything.
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Height channels sound like they are constantly on or at the ready with Dolby Atmos on this film.
Voices circling, music, radio, debris, debris circling, debris music flying overhead, parachute deploy, water, insects.

I didn’t turn off my height channels and replay with just the bed, but others have. I just was reading up on some reviews on the Atmos soundtrack in the last couple hours. The reviews I read by searching Gravity + Atmos all basically echo that it’s a champion mix, and a far cry better than the standard DTS mix.

Examples:


Just to clarify, I think everyone agrees about Gravity, as far as I know. The ones Stop the Fomo said were bad, that others generally say are good/great, were Mad Max Fury Road, Alita Battle Angel, and Godzilla King of the Monsters (I think it was King of the Monsters. Definitely one of the new Godzilla movies).

I physically unhooked all the other speakers and just left heights and played the dust storm shootout scene and the heights weren’t doing anything.
Yeah that's what Stop the Fomo did. He watched those 4 movies with only the height channels on, and they were all missing a ton of stuff in the height channels that was not even a question whether it should be there or not, basically. That's how he made it sound. This is the video about it.
. I posted it before in another thread, not trying to keep posting it but the same movies keep coming up with the same question of how he could have observed something so opposite to what most say about those mixes. I am thinking the answer must be what you said, that he's correct about the height channels not being used well, but the other channels are used so well that it covers for it when you listen to them all together. I dont see what else could explain it except that.

Which hey, if the mixes are still great overall, then that's a definite positive. I don't think it should excuse the height channels not being used properly, because that attitude just sets the bar low in a way that is guaranteed to have the problem continue in the future instead of being improved, but it's a positive for sure.
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Height channels sound like they are constantly on or at the ready with Dolby Atmos on this film.
Voices circling, music, radio, debris, debris circling, debris music flying overhead, parachute deploy, water, insects.

I didn’t turn off my height channels and replay with just the bed, but others have. I just was reading up on some reviews on the Atmos soundtrack in the last couple hours. The reviews I read by searching Gravity + Atmos all basically echo that it’s a champion mix, and a far cry better than the standard DTS mix.

Examples:




For Mad Max: Fury Road, the opening scene is one of my demos I play near every time someone comes to my house. The intro is rife with height channels sounds. From ghostly voices, to cars flying overhead. That intro can make a HT spectator turn into a I want to purchase now enthusiast. I couldn’t tell you how much of the movie has height channel information as once again I never just turned off the bed channels to test. I know there are some movies that are mixed so well you think there must be ceiling speaker action and there isn’t. American Sniper’s dust storm scene comes to mind. I did test with that one because I read the heights weren’t very active. I physically unhooked all the other speakers and just left heights and played the dust storm shootout scene and the heights weren’t doing anything.
Agreed on Fury Road. I've watched the entire movie a handful of times, but I probably pull up the opening scene about once a week. Same with the very beginning of Ford v. Ferrari. It's scenes like that that sell Atmos systems.

I'll have to go back and check out Gravity. I've got a couple of versions of it, but haven't done a deep dive since going Atmos. Looking forward to the 4K - provided they don't muck up the audio like they did with War of the Worlds.
@Archaea Are you running your Atmos speaker levels hot? If so, how much higher than your bed layer?
@Archaea Are you running your Atmos speaker levels hot? If so, how much higher than your bed layer?
I had Audyssey Dynamic EQ on, which I normally do for movies. Otherwise no. Heights and bed are the same.

I use default 0dB as the Dynamic EQ offset. Dynamic EQ boosts surrounds/heights and LFE. The boost increases as you lessen volumes, and decreases and completely disappears as you approach reference volume 0dB). I have the x6700h AVR volume limiter set to 0dB to avoid accidents.

We played Gravity back at -3dB. So there would have been a tiny pinch of extra SPL applied to surrounds and LFE by Dynamic EQ, but I doubt more than a single dB since so close to reference volume.

I do purposely boost LFE channel! By about 8-10dB in this case (and as a general subjective preference/rule.)
I have to turn the subwoofer gain attenuators way down to make the Audyssey setup test tones proceed happily, then when the Audyssey setup is complete, I turn each subwoofer amp’s gain attenuator up 4 or 5 clicks (2dB per click). That’s home.
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The thing about Fury Road is that it's such a loud and assaultive sound mix that it's easy to get confused about which direction sounds are coming from. Watching the movie feels like having your head repeatedly smashed with a sledgehammer for two hours.
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The thing about Fury Road is that it's such a loud and assaultive sound mix that it's easy to get confused about which direction sounds are coming from. Watching the movie feels like having your head repeatedly smashed with a sledgehammer for two hours.
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What's crazy is you're not the only one who feels this way about MMFR, but "stop the Fomo" on youtube (pro reviewer) says the height channels are barely utilized outside of the opening sequence, and that it was clear the atmos mixers for MMFR were not even given the full sound effects or soundtrack (I forget exactly) to work with for the atmos track on that.

I dont have my atmos up yet to see for myself, but any idea why the disparity in opinions? Is it possible it just has really good music and bed layer effects and bass, to the point that even though the height channels themselves are poorly done, it's still one of the most enjoyable overall? Or would you disagree with the idea that the height channels are poorly done in the first place?
I disagree with the methodology of unplugging the bed-layer channels to see how much is in the heights, because it ignores that the heights are used as part of an array more than as "channels". So for instance, an object may be elevated above the bed layer some and the decoder place it there by putting 60% of the sound in the bed and 40% in the adjacent height... and where you would hear this as elevated in practice, turning the bed-layer channels off would make you think that the heights weren't being used much because you're then only hearing part of the cross-channel steering going on. It's a fun point of interest or experiment... but not really indicative of how much the heights may actually be doing in a mix. It just doesn't tell the whole story.

Gravity stands out because they are actually steering dialogue around the room, which makes it a great disc to assess consistency of timbre between the channels. If it's just effects moving around the room, you can more easily get away with mismatched speakers with a little EQ. But once you've heard that opening with Clooney's voice moving around you between channels, the benefits of a matched system are apparent.

Anyone looking for another stand-out Atmos track should check out Doctor Sleep on UHD. Great combo of ambient sounds, instruments subtly moving through the heights for effect, and some aggressive cross-channel steering when needed. It's hands down my favorite disc for the "bubble of sound" you get from Atmos. The scene where Rose The Hat tries to invade Abra's mind has some fantastic Atmos sound.
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I disagree with the methodology of unplugging the bed-layer channels to see how much is in the heights, because it ignores that the heights are used as part of an array more than as "channels". So for instance, an object may be elevated above the bed layer some and the decoder place it there by putting 60% of the sound in the bed and 40% in the adjacent height... and where you would hear this as elevated in practice, turning the bed-layer channels off would make you think that the heights weren't being used much because you're then only hearing part of the cross-channel steering going on. It's a fun point of interest or experiment... but not really indicative of how much the heights may actually be doing in a mix. It just doesn't tell the whole story.

Gravity stands out because they are actually steering dialogue around the room, which makes it a great disc to assess consistency of timbre between the channels. If it's just effects moving around the room, you can more easily get away with mismatched speakers with a little EQ. But once you've heard that opening with Clooney's voice moving around you between channels, the benefits of a matched system are apparent.

Anyone looking for another stand-out Atmos track should check out Doctor Sleep on UHD. Great combo of ambient sounds, instruments subtly moving through the heights for effect, and some aggressive cross-channel steering when needed. It's hands down my favorite disc for the "bubble of sound" you get from Atmos. The scene where Rose The Hat tries to invade Abra's mind has some fantastic Atmos sound.
Totally agree, I care more about the bubble then the height specifically. Had I realized this sooner i never would have waited to do the overheads. Done right it's such a great addition to the HT.
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The Diamond Luxe Edition!
For those of us who couldn't snag The Diamond Luxe Edition, Warners still has 'Gravity' listed as a late 2021 4K UHD disc release which should have the ATMOS track. :)
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For those of us who couldn't snag The Diamond Luxe Edition, Warners still has 'Gravity' listed as a late 2021 4K UHD disc release which should have the ATMOS track. :)
You can also watch Gravity with its Dolby Atmos soundtrack if you own it:
- via a streaming retailer such as VUDU, have a Movies Anywhere account and an Apple ID, and have the streaming retailer that you own it on and your Apple ID connected to Movies Anywhere.
OR
- via Apple
Open the TV app on an Apple device, or the Apple TV app on a non-Apple device, and you'll be able to stream Gravity with its Dolby Atmos soundtrack, if the device that you're streaming it on supports Dolby Atmos.
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Bummer, 4K disc has been tabled indefinitely.

No disc for you ,Next!
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I watched Gravity last night with guests at -3dB in my HT. It’s been probably three years since I watched it last, and my previous viewing was on a different AVR with different speakers. The Atmos sound with 13 matching speakers blew me away. The object panning was seamless and constant. Great use of silence too, right after dynamic blasts of sound. Incredible sound design, even from the first 30 seconds of the movie. I think it’s probably the best sound design of any movie I’ve heard. Masterclass!

Other notables favorite Atmos mixes I love:
BladeRunner 2049
Spider-Man - Into the Spider-Verse
Mad Max: Fury Road
Loved the Crowder "meme".
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