[david437]

Hello,


im asking me, what advantages OLED has, in comparison to a 10 Lumen Plasma.

I dont understand this hole OLED hype... Whats the big deal of OLED besides

power consumption ?

Hase OLED any advantages in picture quality that cant be done with current Plasma technologie ?

Do they have better motion picture or better colors ?



greetings

 

[Nielo TM]

Oh where to start



Standard OLED:

• True 10bit color (and possibly more)
• Greater gamut
• Improved Uniformity
• Free from noise as it is based on AM
• Higher Efficiency (can achieve greater than 70 lumin per watt)
• Flexible and thin as paper etc.

TOLED:

• Fully transparent and can be embedded onto windows and such
• RGB sub-pixels can be stacked on top of each other to eliminate pixel pitch and to improve gamut as well as color depth etc.

Search for the OLED advancement thread. Everything you need to know should be in there.

 

[keyser]

Thought I´d just post here instead of starting a new thread on the subject...


I´m also curious why all the OLED hype... the prototype extreme contrast plasma pioneer showed seemed to have full off black levels, they also showed a prototype that was 9mm thick(for those that care about the thin fad). I have never noticed any noise at normal viewing distance with plasma(but I do notice flicker sometimes).

I thought plasmas today were way beyond 8-bit colors(but our sources are still only 8), up to 12? Which doesn't really matter as long as we have 8 bit sources and have banding isn't noticeable any longer in good plasmas? They have also the possibility to go beyond the color gamut our sources provide. They also have perfect uniformity as far as I can see.


So for a TV, what are the advantages of OLED to a plasma like that(which seems much more doable than a large OLED)?

 

[powertoold]



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Originally Posted by keyser /forum/post/19600115


So for a TV, what are the advantages of OLED to a plasma like that(which seems much more doable than a large OLED)?

Thinner, more energy efficient, no dithering noise and moire, bigger sizes possible in the future, much lighter, and no phosphor lag.


Those are all fairly significant advantages, IMO.

 

[vinnie97]

I'd argue that "thinner," "no dithering noise" (from recommended seating distance) and "phosphor lag" are not that significant to a vast majority. I'm fine with lighter, easier to move when needed. ;-)

 

[rogo]

I'd argue that lighter is an advantage to almost no one. And I'd concur that most of the other features are non issues for most people.


Any energy efficiency gains are moot if it costs 2-5x as much, of course, as important as those are.

 

[8mile13]

OLED 15(inch)LG9500 review http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.p...&id=1289487180

 

[keyser]

... sounds like what the extreme contrast Pio would have possibly looked like, only MUCH smaller with low resolution.

 

[specuvestor]

It's just the beginning. The biggest noticeable advantage for J6P and videophile alike will be the contrast

 

[keyser]

The Pio proto was in the infinite full black category and it was 50". We haven't seen an OLED close to that size. Would seem much more likely to we see such a plasma in production before a large OLED.

Doesn't OLED also still have issues with lifetime, screen uniformity and are still low resolution plus how hard it is to make them large.

Pretty much the only issue extreme contrast plasma seems to have is working out how to make that technology cheaper. Sounds much more doable than fixing all the issues that still hinder OLED.

 

[specuvestor]

Go check out the OLED thread for more comprehensive discussion on both side of the arguments.


However I usually advise people to take a look at samsung galaxy s under the sun. It is not a prototype/ vaporware (people still having fantasy of pio 10G with pop defunct and panny procrastinating) and readily available now so no guessing needed. Sometimes I think this forum focused too much on measurements and technicalities and forgot what the proof of the pudding is

 

[keyser]

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58gZzqvqhRk


Galaxy seems to be the best, the sony being not that much worse. Does the Galaxy perform very well, and if so, why is that? Less screen reflections? Brighter?


The only OLED I´ve seen is the 15" LEG, and if my memory is right, it was just as reflective as other flat panels and didn't handle the light any better.

 

[specuvestor]

Samsung calls it SUPER AMOLED which combines the touch function with the top glass to reduce reflection. But for sure they are still reflective as per the OLED thread on the Samsung showcase recently. (and that was my comment too) but the high contrast more than offset it, though it certainly could be done better in future. A matte screen will reduce the contrast.


Why rely on a video clip when you can see it yourself. Reminds me of a youngster who after hearing a joke, actually SAID "LOL". I am getting perplexed by this Internet overdose... Or maybe I am just getting too old

 

[keyser]



Quote:
Why rely on a video clip when you can see it yourself

Maybe because I live in Iceland and I don't think we have them yet?

 

[specuvestor]

Good point