I think that you made a mistake with the center channel. Anyway, why are you bothering doing this? These are relative levels. You can change the absolute volume with the volume control.
Ed
Ed
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1015 Question...............
I own a Pioneer 1015 and recently ran the auto-setup. It sounds decent BUT want to bring the levels up a bit. If I bring the levels up equally will my system still be equalized? For example, after running the auto setup here is what I got:
FL 10' -2.5
FR 11' -1.5
C 9.5' -4
SL 6' -1
SR 10' +1
Sub 10' -5
Initially, the sub distance was calibrated to be 12' but decided to use 10' instead to correct the error. The rest of the speakers were set properly. Now, if I set the FL to say 0 instead of
-2.5, then here is what the rest would look like keeping all things equal as calibrated by my 1015:
If FL is set to 0
FR +1
C -1.5
SL +1.5
SR +3.5
Sub -2.5
I kept the distances the same as well. Only changed the levels. Am I doing this correctly? Please help ..................I may be confused.......LOL!
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Sure would NOT be the first time if I was.
FL 10' -2.5
FR 11' -1.5
C 9.5' -4
SL 6' -1
SR 10' +1
Sub 10' -5
Initially, the sub distance was calibrated to be 12' but decided to use 10' instead to correct the error. The rest of the speakers were set properly. Now, if I set the FL to say 0 instead of
-2.5, then here is what the rest would look like keeping all things equal as calibrated by my 1015:
If FL is set to 0
FR +1
C -1.5
SL +1.5
SR +3.5
Sub -2.5
I kept the distances the same as well. Only changed the levels. Am I doing this correctly? Please help ..................I may be confused.......LOL!
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Agreed. If you want to raise the level equally for all channels, why bother messing up with those numbers, just increase the volume.
Ed thanks for your reply. The reason I am changing the levels is because the levels are too low. Sure, I can turn up the volume but it still does not get me to a level that I am comfortable with. Therefore, I wanted to scale it up a bit but do it using the same scale just w/a bit more output. I will take a closer look at the center.
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Originally Posted by ekb /forum/post/0
I think that you made a mistake with the center channel. Anyway, why are you bothering doing this? These are relative levels. You can change the absolute volume with the volume control.
Ed
Ed thanks for your reply. The reason I am changing the levels is because the levels are too low. Sure, I can turn up the volume but it still does not get me to a level that I am comfortable with. Therefore, I wanted to scale it up a bit but do it using the same scale just w/a bit more output. I will take a closer look at the center.
As mentioned in my other response I just want to turn it up a few notches w/o turning my volume practically all the way up.
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Originally Posted by axs /forum/post/0
Agreed. If you want to raise the level equally for all channels, why bother messing up with those numbers, just increase the volume.
As mentioned in my other response I just want to turn it up a few notches w/o turning my volume practically all the way up.
You are correct in that I made a mistake regarding the center-channel level. I have corrected it in the original post. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ekb /forum/post/0
I think that you made a mistake with the center channel. Anyway, why are you bothering doing this? These are relative levels. You can change the absolute volume with the volume control.
Ed
You are correct in that I made a mistake regarding the center-channel level. I have corrected it in the original post. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Freak, what speakers are you running? I have the 1014tx and anything over -15 to -10 will about run me out of the room. It goes to +12 i believe. I can watch a couple movies back to back at -15 or so and it doesn't get near as warm as my older Yamaha unit and i only have about 4 or 5" s of clearance above it for venting.
Keep in mind that older recievers had most of their volume control in the first half of their range. The newer ones are even throughout with almost nothing audible until about -45 on the display.
Keep in mind that older recievers had most of their volume control in the first half of their range. The newer ones are even throughout with almost nothing audible until about -45 on the display.
I have the Infinity Primus 360's for fronts, C25 center, and the 150's for rears. I also have (2) Acoustic Research ARPR808 8" powered subs for LFE. My 1015 will go to +10. Usually never have it over -22. But, with the original levels the sound is not very loud. This is why I upped the levels a bit but did it equally and like what I am hearing. Now, I only turn the volume no louder than -25/-26 or so. Seems to work better-at least for my needs anyways.
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Originally Posted by pittdog1 /forum/post/0
Freak, what speakers are you running? I have the 1014tx and anything over -15 to -10 will about run me out of the room. It goes to +12 i believe. I can watch a couple movies back to back at -15 or so and it doesn't get near as warm as my older Yamaha unit and i only have about 4 or 5" s of clearance above it for venting.
Keep in mind that older recievers had most of their volume control in the first half of their range. The newer ones are even throughout with almost nothing audible until about -45 on the display.
I have the Infinity Primus 360's for fronts, C25 center, and the 150's for rears. I also have (2) Acoustic Research ARPR808 8" powered subs for LFE. My 1015 will go to +10. Usually never have it over -22. But, with the original levels the sound is not very loud. This is why I upped the levels a bit but did it equally and like what I am hearing. Now, I only turn the volume no louder than -25/-26 or so. Seems to work better-at least for my needs anyways.
No matter how you turn up the volume, whether by adjusting the level or the main volume knob, your receiver is working equally hard. -22 is not that big a deal any way. Most receivers I have experience with, I use it in the range of -15 to -20 and sometimes at around -12 too.
I am quoting the following from another post Bob made and has good info about these levels:
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Originally Posted by audiofreak38 /forum/post/0
I have the Infinity Primus 360's for fronts, C25 center, and the 150's for rears. I also have (2) Acoustic Research ARPR808 8" powered subs for LFE. My 1015 will go to +10. Usually never have it over -22. But, with the original levels the sound is not very loud. This is why I upped the levels a bit but did it equally and like what I am hearing. Now, I only turn the volume no louder than -25/-26 or so. Seems to work better-at least for my needs anyways.
No matter how you turn up the volume, whether by adjusting the level or the main volume knob, your receiver is working equally hard. -22 is not that big a deal any way. Most receivers I have experience with, I use it in the range of -15 to -20 and sometimes at around -12 too.
I am quoting the following from another post Bob made and has good info about these levels:
Quote:
For normally efficient speakers in a normal home listening environment you will find a main volume setting of:
* -10dB is about as loud as you will normally set things for movies. Typically this will correspond to a 75dB sound pressure level at "reference" audio levels in the movie. Most of your music, TV and movie listening will likely be in the range of -5DB to -30dB.
* 0dB is REALLY loud for a home environment. Typically this will correspond to an 85dB sound pressure level, which happens to be what the sound systems in movie theaters target for reference audio levels. Major sound effects in modern movies, explosions and such, will get much louder than that.
* +16.5dB is a level consistent with bleeding from the ears. You will likely have significant audio distortion as well if you crank things up this far.
* -35dB is a typical power on volume level. This is just loud enough to hear but pretty close to "muted".
* -50dB is essentially "muted", as is anything below that.
For speakers with different efficiency or different sized listening environments your mileage will vary.
--Bob
axs's post and quote from"BOB" coincide exactly with what i have found to be true on my set-up and what i posted earlier. It's hard for people to understand the way volume controls work on newer equipment compared to older ones. Like,"I only had to turn my old reciever up 1/4 of the way and it was really loud!!" . But there wasn't much left but clipping after that, but no one knew because you didn't need to turn it up any higher.
Thanks I find this info quite useful. Glad to see that -22 or so was really no big deal or shall I say strain on my 1015.
Quote:
Originally Posted by axs /forum/post/0
No matter how you turn up the volume, whether by adjusting the level or the main volume knob, your receiver is working equally hard. -22 is not that big a deal any way. Most receivers I have experience with, I use it in the range of -15 to -20 and sometimes at around -12 too.
I am quoting the following from another post Bob made and has good info about these levels:
Thanks I find this info quite useful. Glad to see that -22 or so was really no big deal or shall I say strain on my 1015.
Yeah I have learned that receivers/amps have a certain "threshhold" before clipping and results in damaging levels of distortion. Thanks once again for the help.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pittdog1 /forum/post/0
axs's post and quote from"BOB" coincide exactly with what i have found to be true on my set-up and what i posted earlier. It's hard for people to understand the way volume controls work on newer equipment compared to older ones. Like,"I only had to turn my old reciever up 1/4 of the way and it was really loud!!" . But there wasn't much left but clipping after that, but no one knew because you didn't need to turn it up any higher.
Yeah I have learned that receivers/amps have a certain "threshhold" before clipping and results in damaging levels of distortion. Thanks once again for the help.
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