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What are my choices in TV that will take a 1080p signal in?
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Originally Posted by hijammer
What are my choices in TV that will take a 1080p signal in?
Some sets can accept 1080p over component, bit not via HDMI.


The ones that I'm aware of that take 1080p over HDMI are:


The HP DLPs

The new Samsung HL-Sxx87, HL-Sxx88, HL-Sxx79

The Westinghouse LCD


There are probably others. I would expect that as the various manufacturers roll out their new 2006 lines, 1080p HDMI will become standard on all the 1080p models.
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Originally Posted by dropKickMurphy
Some sets can accept 1080p over component, bit not via HDMI.
I have read that 1080p over component is not possible. Not sure myself.
I have the HL-S5087W and it will accept 1080P over both components and both HDMI.
Most if not all will "accept" 1080p but will they pass it thru unconverted as a true 1080p input is more to the point.


Bear!
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What are my choices in TV that will take a 1080p signal in?
hijammer: Myself and others chose the Brillian 6580iFB 1080p TV which is made and designed in Tempe, Arizona. It plays current native 1080p material such as demo loops shown at this-year's CES show in Vegas (courtesy of Brillian) and games such as "Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion" at its Video 7 DVi input. The 6580 uses LCoS technology on a 65 inch rear projection screen; each LCoS chip has 2 million pixels, and 3 chips are used, one for each of the 3 RGB primary colors; hence, the display screen registers 2 megapixels in color per video frame every 60th of a second; no motion artifacts in fast moving and bright scenes as with DLP. The Brillian has many other fine features that make it an engineering marvel as you can read on the Brillian thread in the Rear Projection section of Displays on AVS Forum. The VP of Sales is Rainer Kuhn, 720-406-8400 or [email protected] if you require more information. I have attached pictures I took when I toured the assembly line in Tempe last month: a set of LCoS imagers, the light engine and its manager, and the lobby company logo. G. L. Dybwad, ABQ, NM


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Most if not all will "accept" 1080p but will they pass it thru unconverted as a true 1080p input is more to the point.


Bear!
No, most of the first generation 1080p sets will not accept 1080p over HDMI.


Upconverting DVD players that output at 1080p over HDMI are just coming on the market now. Upcoming versions of HD-DVD and Blu Ray players will be able to output native 1080p over HDMI. These players would need to at 1080i or 720p in order to pass a signal over HDMI to a set such as the Samsung HL-R series, or any of the current Sony SXRDs.


With the Samsung HL-S series (as well as the HP DLP sets)you would be able to pass the signal at native 1080p through HDMI. No worrying about how your set is handling the deinterlacing, interlacing, scaling, reverse telecine, etc.


Blu-Ray + Samsung HL-Sxx87 = Native 1080p from source to screen.
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Originally Posted by dropKickMurphy
No, most of the first generation 1080p sets will not accept 1080p over HDMI.


Upconverting DVD players that output at 1080p over HDMI are just coming on the market now. Upcoming versions of HD-DVD and Blu Ray players will be able to output native 1080p over HDMI. These players would need to at 1080i or 720p in order to pass a signal over HDMI to a set such as the Samsung HL-R series, or any of the current Sony SXRDs.


With the Samsung HL-S series (as well as the HP DLP sets)you would be able to pass the signal at native 1080p through HDMI. No worrying about how your set is handling the deinterlacing, interlacing, scaling, reverse telecine, etc.


Blu-Ray + Samsung HL-Sxx87 = Native 1080p from source to screen.
Also I would like to add little more info on the component input... Due to bandwidth, it will not support 1080p. HDMI or DVI are the one that can take 1080p. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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The initial HD-DVD machines are not supposed to be able to output 1080p, the second generation of them are supposed to get the capability.


The inital Blu-ray machines will do 1080p only over HDMI but are supposed to do 1080i and 720p over component. However, the Blu-rays are not slated to be available for a few months after the HD-DVD machines are out.

G. L. Dybwad said:
The object of the 2nd photo was the girl I will assume? :D


MURPH

Well so far every thing I have read says that most 1080p displays will accept 1080p. Since there seems to be a shortage :mad: of 1080p signal source out there I can not prove this first hand. Have you?


Bear!

bear paws said:
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Originally Posted by G. L. Dybwad
The object of the 2nd photo was the girl I will assume? :D


MURPH

Well so far every thing I have read says that most 1080p displays will accept 1080p. Since there seems to be a shortage :mad: of 1080p signal source out there I can not prove this first hand. Have you?


Bear!
bear paws: Victoria was our tour guide through the Brillian office, demo room, and assembly line; she started out as a mail girl and now is the knowledgeable product manager for the light engine which is partially assembled at 3M in Minnesota and finished in Tempe where the LCoS chips are made and assembled. I only know of three sources of 1080p native material: the CES 2006 demo loop that Brillian owns and has shared with me, one of their customers; the game "Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion"; and the demo loop supplied with high tech Sencore commercial professional TV test gear. I have given a talk before our local HD Users Group sponsored by KNME PBS 5-1 in Albuquerque, NM, about available sets which can read native 1080p material, i.e., high definition DVD format ready; of all the makers, there are only 4 that I know of, so I think the correct description is that most 1080p displays do upconversions of lower resolution formats, and most displays will not accept 1080p native (that will change in a year or so when the new DVD formats are out and settled down a little). G.L.D., ABQ, NM
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