10ft back and still too close to 60"GWIII. Is it the set or me?

DVI input from Sat

Vid=STD

Pic=2/3 up

Bright=1/2 up

Color=1/2 up, Maybe a little more

Hue=1/2 up

sharp=1/2 up

Color=nuet

NR=Med

Mild=off


DVD input is component, Pany XP30 but that is a different story.

Hope this helps, I have found this to work out for me

feel the bass


Since you see this fuzzyness on DVDs, and not HD, does your DVD player have sharpness settings that need adjusting and are you definately connected by component(progressive and not interlaced) and not svideo or composit??


I too have the 60" GWIII. I sit at 13'. When I upgraded to a Denon 2900 from a Toshiba, I noticed that the picture was sharper. Then I upgraded from the 2900 to the 5900. Initially the picture didn't look sharp at all. In a few days, it improved, but something still didn't look right about it. I'm a avid tweaker and have been in the service menu several times. Evidently with one of my earlier DVD players, I had changed the sharpness offset for the input that my DVD player is on to 49. Using the resolution pattern, I reduced the sharpness offset to 31. Man, talk about a difference towards the better. Evidently, I was oversharpening causing edge enhancements only in the horizontal direction.


If you still can't get a better picture, I'd recommend getting Avia to help figure out what's going on.

feel the bass


[rant] I can almost understand a reluctance to get an ISF calibration on a new set. But please, don't tell me that after spending thousands of dollars on a high end micro-display, that you are "too cheap" to drop 25 bucks on Digital Video Essentials!!! If this was a new 'Vette, would you run it on 87 octane gas because you didn't want to spring for 93+? Would you then complain about engine knocks and poor acceleration? How many people on this forum would give their eye teeth for the set you own - but they really can't afford it. And you're complaining about a GWIII that has minimal tweaking and doesn't look as good as it should! Set it up with DVE, then see if you want to complain about it. Whatever viewing distance you choose, that Sony should look phenomenal from 7 or 8 feet out to max. If you give your inputs a good DVE set up and you still have to be 13 or 14 feet away for it to look right, then maybe your set has a problem. Until then, just please, give it a fair chance. [/rant]


Sorry about that! I feel better now.

feel the bass,


I went through the 50 and 60 debate a couple of times because I too have a pole in my basement that prevents me from getting more than 9'10" back from my set.


For these reasons, I went with the 50" GWIII. Depending upon the DVD in question, I too sometimes find that the picture is a little fuzzy (grainy might describe it better). Howerver, some DVD's look great. However, even the best DVD pales in comparison to HDTV. And it should, since HDTV has much higher resolution.


I followed the advice of many people who purchased the DVD essentials disc and the Avia disc. Some of them posted their settings and I went with them. I have been happy with the settings. I have not performed any of the UMR tweaks as I am happy enough with the TV they way it is, and do not care to take a chance in the service menu for a small increase.


I would guess that 10ft is probably a little close for the 60", but I doubt that changing much in the setup, will make it crystal clear. As others have said, you might try a different DVD player if that is an option.


Again, just my $0.02. I don't consider myself an expert, but I have read alot here and have the 50" GWIII in my basement, so I do speak from actual experience.


Good luck, I hope you find a way to get the picture looking great all the time.

I have a 60"GWIII and I love it. My seating positions start at about 10' and I dont have any issues with it. When I first fired it up I was not thrilled. Then I used video essentials and I was still not thrilled. Then I read and read and read every post and suggestion I could find here at AVS. Then I tweaked some more. And then some more. And then some more. I spent about three to four weeks before I was happy with the end result. Now I love the set. Its a great buy, but it does take patient tweaking. The trick is not to do it all at once. I find I tire of futzing with it if I spend too long, and I become less objective as to whether the changes are actually doing anything. The trick to copying other people's tweaks from AVS is not to take them as gospel. Try them and if you like them great. But a setting that works in someone elses room may not work for yours. I just took them as potential tweaks, and evaluated each one independantly. Anyway, the point of all this is be patient, 10' is fine for most people but not all, and you will love this set! Good Luck!