I know the "flip down" brackets don't really conceal the TV when flipped up because of the way the bracket works and the thickness of the bracket/TV compared to the space underneath a cabinet. I was checking into one of these mounts for my 15" LCD but then decided on an articulating wall mount instead. Even a 13" will hang down quite a bit with the flip down bracket, taking into consideration the normal distance between counter and upper cabinets.