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I am going to be putting together a sub package for my dedicated room. In actual reality the room is smaller than 1300 cu ft as the ceiling is only 10' in the middle and slopes to 8'. I might be getting Sierra-2 as my L/C/R and was planning on building (2) UXL-18's to accompany. I was informed that this might be too much bass for a little room. Would you step down to say (2) 15" to keep dual subs or just build (1)18"?
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well, too much is only too much if you crank it to 11 :p I have the same sized room, and am using a 15" with PRs and I'm barely giving it a workout (then again, the Tumult is a beast!). I'll soon be getting new subs for a change and will be going with a pair of sealed 15's. If you plan on doing sealed with lots of EQ to get lots of
was planning on going sealed for sure and wanted to get

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Originally Posted by scotsman8  /t/1518148/1300-cu-ft-room#post_24365186


was planning on going sealed for sure and wanted to get
do they have winisd for mac to model?

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Originally Posted by BassThatHz  /t/1518148/1300-cu-ft-room#post_24366832


Keep the UXL-18's, you won't regret it.

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Hey Scotsman


Why are you so set on sealed? Have you considered the Marty cube thread?


Either way I would stick with the 18's


Btw, N. Ayrshire lad here...

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Keep the UXL-18's, you won't regret it.
So you think 2 UXL-18's will be good for a room that small or overkill as I haven't purchased subs yet, I just picked up an inuke6000dsp.... so.... HAHA
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Originally Posted by kilteda4  /t/1518148/1300-cu-ft-room#post_24366872


Hey Scotsman


Why are you so set on sealed? Have you considered the Marty cube thread?


Either way I would stick with the 18's


Btw, N. Ayrshire lad here...
I am set on sealed due to the size of the room and don't want to build large ported boxes. Haven't read anything on the marty cube.


I'm from Angus area originally (Brechin) but live in Houston now.
I hear you, ported usually means a huge cabinet, to the contrary however, the Marty Cube is only 2x2x2... might be worth considering, plus Donny is selling flat packs for it if you are not comfortable building:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1516724/martysub-flatpacks


I don't think there is such a thing as over kill but at the end of the day an 18" driver is usually not that much more than a 15" so why not just go with 18 to be future proof...you can always start with one, however for HT it's usually best to at least have a pair.


I've been through Brechin, grew up in Irvine but moved to Nashville back in '98.
i'd be inclined to go with 4 15" um15's and stick one in each corner. with that amp wired 2 in series per channel gives about 550 watts per driver.

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-um15-22-15-ultimax-dvc-subwoofer-2-ohms-per-coil--295-514


boxes if you need them:

http://www.parts-express.com/knock-down-mdf-30-cu-ft-subwoofer-cabinet-for-dayton-audio-15-ultimax-subwoofer--300-7082


blue line is 4x um15-22 in 3 cubic footers sealed 2200 watts total.


red line is 2x uxl18's in 3 cubic footers sealed, 4400 watts total.

the reason is the room is small. your gain is going to kick in about the same time the drivers start rolling off, which will be around 37hz.


as a result, you will be pretty flat or maybe just a hair of eq will be needed to get them to 120db down into the teens.


with corner loading and room gain, that should get you well over 120db down into the teens.


it is kind of a "how nutz do you want to go" type question.

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this is a very rough guess at what you could be looking at with the 4x15" solution AND free room gain.

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That sounds good, but with the doorways in the room I wouldn't be able to put the 15's in each corner
How would it model with the 18's in a 4cu ft box?
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So do you think 2 UXL-18's will be overkill?

Dual UXL's is weak to me. But worry not...











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Originally Posted by scotsman8  /t/1518148/1300-cu-ft-room#post_24367025


So do you think 2 UXL-18's will be overkill?

Ask me that question...


one more time.
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don't think you have enough subs yet...
Good grief BTH. We know you have a lot of subs. There's no need to interject those pics into every conversation.
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Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice  /t/1518148/1300-cu-ft-room#post_24365224


That will require a longest room dimension of perhaps 15 feet to provide the necessary cabin gain in the low end.

Model the response of your proposed builds, see what they have for maximum SPL. To account for cabin gain add 9dB per octave below where the longest room dimension is 1/2 wavelength. That will give a conservative estimate that should hold up.

What do you mean by this sir? I have a 1200cuft room.

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Originally Posted by mijotter  /t/1518148/1300-cu-ft-room#post_24647855


What do you mean by this sir? I have a 1200cuft room.

Room volume is not a primary value of room gain but rather room dimensions as far as I understand. The volume of a room is by-product. There is a lot of information out there which is fairly correct but always missing a key piece of information or is right by bad causation.


So what he is saying, find your longest dimension. Assume 15 feet. The speed of sound is 1115 ft/second. A 15 foot wavelength for sound = 74 Hz. But we are looking for half-length so really a 30 foot wavelength so that is 37Hz. Then take an octave down (e.g. 1/2 the frequency) so divide by two..so at ~19 Hz you should see a 9 dB room gain.
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