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I recently bought the $199 (at Sams Club) Apex AD-800

progressive scan DVD player. At first I reported that it had a bad problem. Every DVD I played using my G10 had severe tearing in the image. With progressive component connected my projector defaulted to "HDTV". I just assumed

that the projector knew what it was doing and was smarter

than me so I left it that way for a week.

Last night I switched from HDTV to EDTV and no more

tearing.

I know. I probably should have known this.

But I'm still a newbie and I've never used EDTV and

don't even know what it is. Is EDTV just another name

for 480p?


For only two hundred clams this DVD player makes a

pretty decent picture. Not what you will see with

a Radeon HTPC mind you but not that bad either.


This is my very first experience with a progressive scan

standalone so please educate me about something.

If you read posts to the DVD hardware forum you

quickly discover one widely held view. The

downside to using a PS DVD player is that at 480p

you are going to see scan lines.


Since virtually everyone says this is the case I am

certainly not going to challenge that. But

why am I not seeing scan lines? Are they difficult to

discern? Am I not observant enough? Why does everyone

else see them but I don't seem to be able to?


Bob Wood





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I don't see why anybody is saying that you would see scan lines with your G10 and a 480p signal. You are not going to see the interlacing artifacts and the 480p is a progressive signal which being fed into your digital projector wouldn't have scan lines.



Now if this were a CRT projector, maybe that would be another issue.


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Bob,

I would expect to see scanlines with a decently focussed CRT projector running 480p. Most digital projectors scale the input signal to the native panel resolution. No scanlines should be seen with a digital projector. Tearing may be seen if syncing is an issue, as you've seen, but not scanlines.

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Mark,


Have you been following all the hoopla about the

Skyworth? If so, what's your take on it

from what we've read so far? I know you're staunchly

in the HTPC camp but do you think this thing will

give HTPC a run for it's money?


Bob



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Cameron and Jeff,


I just went back and re-read the threads about

scan lines and 480p and now see that the forum members

who are harping about this are using CRT projectors.


I was planning to get the new Skyworth 1050P. Since I use

a CRT projector as much as my DILA do you think it's

a mistake for me to want to switch from my HTPC to

a DVD player? Do you think the scan line issue

will make me regret this purchase? Unfortunately

I can't test the Apex machine with my CRT projectors

to see how annoying scan lines will be because none

of my CRT projectors have component inputs.


My HTPC has given me so many problems lately

and that's why I'm considering the switch. But if ugly

scan lines will be the result then instead I'll want to do

whatever it takes to try get the cussed HTPC straightened

out (right now it won't even play a DVD).


From what we're reading (albeit limited as of yet) it

looks like the Faroudja de-interlacing in the Skyworth

is going to be killer. Stacey Spears, Li On and others

are telling us that artifacting is reduced to a bare

minimum.



Bob


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Hi Bob,


EDTV is now a deprecated term. This input is really SDTV (480P).


In fact, at JVC's suggestion I updated the "EDTV" label in the Image Geometry Wizard to read "SDTV 480P" in the recent Dilard 2.1 release.


You are correct in picking this source for a progressive scan DVD player plugged into the projector.


Maybe you were just HOPING that it would look like HDTV http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif .
 
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