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Greetings AVS Members,





I need some advice on fellow members here who may have experience with either of these speakers. I am not from the USA however based on a lot of information I already have purchased the Danley SH50 for my theatre Rooms. I am now willing to spend up to 20,000 dollars (If Needed) to get the best possible 2 channel stereo music.


Musical Taste: Epic Soundtracks, From Movies, Orchestral, Trip Hop, Jazz, Chill-out music/Lounge music. Others in the home also use the system for their own music which ranges from all sort of crap.



Firstly let me explain about my room size.


My Listening Room is:


8 Meters by 7 Meters and has a height of 3.2 meters.


My Current Setup:

ATI Amplifier 3007

Clayton Audio m300 mono Blocks


Bob Carver Amplifier 305


Danley SH50 & SH69 and SH100


Seaton Subwoofer (Dual Subs)


Purity Audio Ultra Series Pre-amp


Onkyo PRSC5509 Processing (Looking to upgrade soon)



I will be purchasing a NEW Dac either the Bekeley Audio or the PS Audio Perfect Wave. Not sure which one to get but at the moment wanted to focus on the speakers purchase.


I am Interested in the following user experiences or comparison.


Legacy Audio Whisper XD

Salk Sound Scape 12

B&W 802

Magico Q5 (Used)

Wilson Audio

Ariel Acoustics
 

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From that list I have only heard Wilson Audio and they were the Alexandria's. They were incredible, the imaging was fantastic but very difficult to justify the price. The B&W 802D are quite highly regarded around here, and the Aerial's get some attention from time to time.


One thing I would like to understand is the comment about the Danley. Is this a different room than the theatre room, does this mean that the towers will be run Full Range? If so I would look for towers that can dig down to 30hz or lower at a -3db point. From the Frequency response of the 800D it looks like they have significant performance down to 24hz at -6 and 20hz at roughly -10 or so which isnt that bad for a tower.


Here is a thread where another individual was considering the 802D, 800D, and Aerial 20T. The Aerial's would probably need to be purchased used becasue their MSRP seems to be just north of $30k.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1223487/new-b-w-800-diamond-vs-aerial-20t-vs
 

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B&W 800D2, Revel Ultima Salon2, Kef Reference 207/2 assuming 2.0.
 

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Originally Posted by jima4a  /t/1470478/20-000-dollar-speaker-budget-whats-the-best-value-speakers-new-or-used#post_23257523


B&W 800D2, Revel Ultima Salon2, Kef Reference 207/2 assuming 2.0.

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KEF Reference, Revel Ultima, B&W Diamond.


Also the Linkwitz Orion dipole speakers.
 

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I don't have any specific suggestions since what I like and what you like may be completely different, but, generally speaking I've found that spending in excess of say $5,000 for fronts yields a very small improvement in sound quality. What you typically pay for is a more impressive looking speaker than a better sounding one.
 

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I really liked the Salk SS8s. I imagine the SS12s are even more impressive, although their look is not for everyone.


Another I heard at RMAF last year was the Von Schweikert VR-44. It is right in that price range and comes in passive or active versions.
 

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There's some pretty amazing speakers in this thread http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/forum-announcements-news/66134-axpona-2013-official-show-report-joe-alexander-hts.html from the 2013 Axpona Art show that would be within your budget. It's a probably a worth while read for you.


If I was spending anything north of 10 grand for a 2 channel setup I would atleast try to audition a pair of Seaton Catalyst 12C's, I believe they won an award at this show for best speaker at a certain price level I just can't remember what price that was.
 

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Where are you located (I am guessing Europe)? Based on your application, I would say go demo at some high end audio stores near you. Buy the ones you like the best from your list above, and make sure they have a good return policy in case they don't sound as good at your home.


Sounds like you have the home theater covered, 2 channel full range is another story
 

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Thanks for the suggestion I will Look Into the Salons 2 and some others.


Just wanted to know if anyone here has compared the Legacy Audio against B&W and Kef. Those drivers are big and the setup of the speaker looks good using a active crossover.


The SH50 are staying for the Theatre room for Sure. I have already got 3 units of JTR 888 Sealed version. To be honest i bought them based on reviews on this forum and was totally disappointed with its performance, the upper range was so rough that listening to music was like hearing a cat scream all day long. No offense they are good speakers they go loud and clear at high volumes but the did perform so well with my setup. The SH50 on the other hands performs very well but is not refined enough on the top end. For HT Duties its fine but for music its not acceptable.


I know there is allot of salk fans on this thread but I’m curious about legacy.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion I will Look Into the Salons 2 and some others.


Just wanted to know if anyone here has compared the Legacy Audio against B&W and Kef. Those drivers are big and the setup of the speaker looks good using a active crossover.


The SH50 are staying for the Theatre room for Sure. I have already got 3 units of JTR 888 Sealed version. To be honest i bought them based on reviews on this forum and was totally disappointed with its performance, the upper range was so rough that listening to music was like hearing a cat scream all day long. No offense they are good speakers they go loud and clear at high volumes but the did perform so well with my setup. The SH50 on the other hands performs very well but is not refined enough on the top end. For HT Duties its fine but for music its not acceptable.


I know there is allot of salk fans on this thread but I’m curious about legacy.

I have not personally heard any horn speakers with a refined top end, but that could just be me.

Maybe we have similar hearing?

For refined top end, you will probably like a speaker with this measurement profile: KEF 201/2 .

Pay particular attention to the distortion levels (or lack of) in this measurement:


To me, that is simply amazing.


Here are measurements for Revel Salon 2 and PSB Synchrony One which both have extremely low distortion in the upper octaves. With your budget, the Salon2 is probably a better fit.
 

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I have already got 3 units of JTR 888 Sealed version. To be honest i bought them based on reviews on this forum and was totally disappointed with its performance, the upper range was so rough that listening to music was like hearing a cat scream all day long.

I think your best bet is the Revel Salon2, KEF 207/2, & Linkwitz Orion since they have outstanding speaker measurements, unlike some speakers with either poor measurements or NO MEASUREMENTS AT ALL.


Having the best measurements still won't guarantee you will love the sound of the speakers, but your odds are much better than with poor measurements & no measurements at all.


It appears we both have the Philharmonic 3 speakers. They will sound extremely similar to the Salk Soundscape 12 (SS12 will have slightly more bass). One member who has heard both the Phil2 & SS10 actually preferred the Phil2's BG Neo8 midrange over his SS10's Accuton midrange.


What do you think of your Phil3 (happy with them) ?
 
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