[DocuMaker]

These are screen captures from the YouTube archive of this event.

Top Row: Panasonic V10 (left); LG PS60 (right)

Bottom Row: Toshiba 670U (left); Sony XBR9 (right)

 

[DocuMaker]



Once again, Panny V10 on left; LG PS60 on right. Toshiba 670U backlit LED and Sony XBR9 CCFL on bottom.

 

[DocuMaker]

Kevin Miller presentation: Part 2. The displays are being fed a 1% IRE signal.

Panasonic V10: top left (with red light)

LG PS60: top right

Toshiba 670U bottom left

Sony XBR9 bottom right

 

[rodeoclown]

Do you realize that there are no photos in these messages? (or is it just me?!)

 

[whiteboy714]

Would be nice if we had some HQ screens to show actual PQ. Thanks for the shots though, would have been cool to be at this event.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rodeoclown /forum/post/16896497


Do you realize that there are no photos in these messages? (or is it just me?!)

Its just you.

 

[DocuMaker]



1% IRE signal (cont.)


Samsung B860 (top left)

Pioneer KRP-500M (top middle)

Panasonic V10 (top right)

 

[DocuMaker]

I hope everyone can see these shots. By the way, if some of the shots are just one black glob and you can't distinguish any differences, you must have a cheap TN panel LCD. Try adjusting the angle of your monitor, and also switch your picture mode to game mode or dynamic or something to accentuate the contrast. Then you should be able to tell a difference in the dark shots.


Notice in the last couple of shots how much more the Sammy B860 on the left is glowing than the Panny V10 on the right. Of course the KRP-500M in the middle looks darkest. I also uploaded these pics to show how much more the LG glows than the others, with light on in the room and off.


I'm not going to bother to upload any pics showing colors or anything. It would be impossible to judge anything accurately. This is just a rough gauge for people to see which TV's glow the most in the dark, and how much more each glows. That's about all you can (sorta) gauge from these pics. I realize it is far from perfect.


Here is the link to the Google Picasa album to download these shots at full size 1920x1080. I labeled the times of the screenshots so you can go on YouTube and find the exact spot in the video to compare yourselves.
http://picasaweb.google.com/DocuMake...utScreenshots#

 

[donnymac51]

there are no pics on any of the posts

 

[mjrgamer]

These pics need to be ISF calibrated.

j/k not really

 

[DocuMaker]

Here is a good shot on top, of the Samsung B860 on the left next to the KRP-500M on the right. Obviously you can see the window pattern being displayed as a rectangle in the center on the Pioneer.

 

[DocuMaker]

I don't know why some can see them, and some can't. I uploaded them to Google Picasa. The filenames to link to the phots are quite long. Flickr is so much easier. I probably should have used Flickr. Perhaps someone has to be logged into Google or something to see them? I dunno how all this picture embedding works.

Anyway you should be able to see and download the photos by going to the Picasa link here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/DocuMake...utScreenshots#


Try putting them on an SD card and plugging them in for display on your plasma. You should be able to see the difference, in the dark.

 

[pdogg93]

I am truly disgusted that sony could release such a pos tv (xbr 9).

 

[DocuMaker]

Well the camera shot may have been slightly off-angle making the Sony glow a bit more. Perhaps if the shot was straight on it would have better blacks.

 

[DocuMaker]

Here is the V10 on the top left with the red light, and the LG on the top right. The Sony LCD has the white light on the bottom.

 

[DocuMaker]

Here is the KRP-500M on the top left, and the Panny V10 on the top right, which glows a bit more. The LG LH90 LED backlit is on the bottom left, and the Toshi LED 670U is on the bottom right.

 

[fourtytwoinch]

When they 'rated' black level did they rate it on a full-black screen?

 

[donnymac51]

whatever you did i can see the pics now

 

[rodeoclown]

same here

 

[DocuMaker]

All these pics (attempt to) demonstrate, is what was already revealed by the measurements and the audience voting. For the plasmas, the LG came in last place for blacks, followed by the Samsung B860. The V10 of course finished a distant second to the Pioneer 500M. The only reason I posted these is because a few delusional Sammy fannys, based upon one Danish review, try to claim that the B860 is just as dark as the V10, when obviously it is not. From the measurements and from these screenshots, the Sammy and (especially) the LG glow much more than the Pioneer and the Panasonic. You can see why the LG plasma was the cheapest entry in the contest.

 

[DocuMaker]



Quote:
Originally Posted by fourtytwoinch /forum/post/16897082


When they 'rated' black level did they rate it on a full-black screen?

I'm not sure, since I wasn't there, but I think they just voted on their overall impression of which had the best blacks, inlcuding test patterns and real content. They chose to feed the sets a 1% IRE signal because at 0% the LED's on the Samsung Luxia will shut-off completely, and not give a very useful indication of its MLL. They also put up some white window patterns to make the displays do the bright white and dark black at the same time. I don't think they put up any ANSI checkerboards, if I recall correctly.