[sargeant]

Lets say you have similar models with the same features and the exact same price and lens shifting was of no value which one would you buy DLP or LCD.


From all the literature ive read it seems there are more cons for Lcd than dlp strictly speaking from a visual aspect of the picture...Every bar has a Dlp all theatres play dlp why are they not more popular.


Today's dlp's do they still have the rainbow effect. I read owners all the time that switch from LCD to DLP but are there people out there that do it the other way around or are they just silent.


Epson 6500 ub

Mitshibushi hc 6000 or HC 7000

Optoma hd 8200

Benq 5000

Infocus in 83


If they are all the same price which one would you buy if you had 118 " carada BW screen and all other factors were ideal distance throw was not a factor and no lens shifting was required with minimal obedient light coming.

 

[AudioBear]

I made that decision within the last year and bought a Benq W5000 because my ceiling is too low for the IN83. I really like the Benq and have no regrets. I like the DLP picture better than an LCD but the difference probably isn't that great. DLPs seem sharper and seem to have more pop. I don't see rainbows nor does anyone who watches my machine who all love the 110" picture. All that said I suspect the IN83 is better and brighter (from what I read--never seen one) and it might do better on your 120" although the W5000 would light it up fine.


Now if I had $6K I would have bought a Planar PD 8150. That's a machine!

 

[c-not-k]

At that price range you're comparing 1-chip DLP's to 3-panel LCD's. Commercial DLP cinema projectors are 3-chippers.


Some people see rainbows in all 1-chip DLP's. Some don't. Rainbows are a byproduct of the image creation process for 1-chippers. For those who are RBE-sensitive a 3-panel projector is essential.


I see rainbows, but they don't bother me. I like the DLP look, but haven't honestly spent enough time with an LCD to tell you the differences.


While on vacation the timeshare had a "theater" with an older 3-LCD Panasonic. Sorry, I forget the model. I, obviously, didn't see rainbows, but the contrast ratio was much lower than my then-current Runco CL-700 DLP. I hear the Panasonic AE-3000 is quite the LCD for the money. Perhaps you could demo one?


I upgraded my Runco to a Sharp XV-Z20000 and love it.

 

[sargeant]

Just when I thought I had it figured Im trying to fit an Infocus IN83 into my life that offset sure screws things up.


I dont wanna mount it on the floor my ceiling where the projector sits is 10 feet high depth can be adjusted from 14' feet to 17 feet.


How ever the fixed screen sits 10 inches from the top. For this to work how high of the ground is my image. I have a multi purpose room with a pool table in the way...So the image has to be atleast 30 inches of the ground.


Does this work to tell you the truth I dont even know what offset really means.....Help Im a dinosaur with a remote control.

 

[sargeant]

Ive read about too many returns... Like 100% returns according to the guys at av science so optoma is off the list.....


You guys watch sports with light in the room my projector is for 80 % hdtv football ,basketball etc 15 % movies.


Frankly I dont care about the price anymore which is the best for HDTV sports that is my number 1 priority .....Guys am I the only watching sports on projectors DESTRESS me please.

 

[Knd]

We've only owned one projector an Epson 6500 and really like it. The attractions for us were it brightness (Art at projectorreviews.com says it is one of the brightest), placement flexibility, noise level, and black levels. I was very concerned with brightness when I was setting up our HT so this was a big plus (at least to me).


So far it has all worked out well. We have close to 500 hours on it and it still looks great in low lamp mode (118" Carada BW).

 

[Jason Turk]



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Originally Posted by sargeant /forum/post/16839229


Ive read about too many returns... Like 100% returns according to the guys at av science so optoma is off the list.....


You guys watch sports with light in the room my projector is for 80 % hdtv football ,basketball etc 15 % movies.


Frankly I dont care about the price anymore which is the best for HDTV sports that is my number 1 priority .....Guys am I the only watching sports on projectors DESTRESS me please.

To be clear, on the Optoma HD8200 we only sold a few testers at first, but yes, they were all returned. Now supposedly they came out with a few fixes, but we have not tested them yet so I cannot comment.

 

[sargeant]

I wanna thank to everyone that has responded.


Projectors elimination process is down to these companies.


Epson 6500 ub

Infocus IN 83

and possible the new Infocus sp8602 if it gets here before week 1 of the nfl season...My screen again will be 118" bw by carada throw back between 14 feet and 19 feet...There is light during the day not a lot but enough.....


HDTV sports 80% :15 % hdtv movies : 5 % dvd.


Anyone have any knowledge when the new INFOCUS SP8602 Hits the market. I would have jumped on INFOCUS 5504 if it was around $4500.00 or so this would have been decided ID be sitting on my lazy boy right about now.


Please help me here no in this area has reasonable knowledge your input to me is so essential. Best projector for watching HDTV sports is _____________ ?

 

[Tryg]

Maybe there's something to this Rainbow thing...


Last 3 years the editors choice was LCOS and LCD

http://www.projectorcentral.com/home...projectors.htm


From the AE3000 review


"One wonders... how long can some brands continue to ask $10,000 and up for 1080p projectors when you can get stunning, high contrast 1080p picture quality and an unsurpassed boatload of features for street prices close to $3,000? "

 

[stanger89]



Quote:
Originally Posted by sargeant /forum/post/16839012


Just when I thought I had it figured Im trying to fit an Infocus IN83 into my life that offset sure screws things up.


I dont wanna mount it on the floor my ceiling where the projector sits is 10 feet high depth can be adjusted from 14' feet to 17 feet.

If you've got 10' ceilings, you don't have a problem with the IN83, or shouldn't.

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How ever the fixed screen sits 10 inches from the top. For this to work how high of the ground is my image. I have a multi purpose room with a pool table in the way...So the image has to be atleast 30 inches of the ground.

Lets see, for a ~120" image, the screen height is approx 60". Take that figure a 36% offset is about 22". So 2' + 6' = 8' from the ceiling for the bottom.


That's 2' off the floor. Are you saying you're pool table is between your seating and your screen? Have you tried having someone measure how far down the wall you can see from your seating position?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sargeant /forum/post/16839229


You guys watch sports with light in the room my projector is for 80 % hdtv football ,basketball etc 15 % movies.


Frankly I dont care about the price anymore which is the best for HDTV sports that is my number 1 priority .....Guys am I the only watching sports on projectors DESTRESS me please.

My BenQ W5000 works quite well with a bit of light (even in it's dimmest config), but my lighting is recessed spot lights right above the seating. If you've got something well focused like that it helps a lot.


The IN83 would be better because it's quite a bit brighter than the W5000 (a screen with gain would help you too).

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Originally Posted by Tryg /forum/post/16843287


Maybe there's something to this Rainbow thing...


Last 3 years the editors choice was LCOS and LCD

http://www.projectorcentral.com/home...projectors.htm

Ah, the known authority on HT projectors

Quote:
From the AE3000 review


"One wonders... how long can some brands continue to ask $10,000 and up for 1080p projectors when you can get stunning, high contrast 1080p picture quality and an unsurpassed boatload of features for street prices close to $3,000? "

I think everyone knows PJC loves their cheap projectors. They have an eye for quality, but a bigger eye for price. Price/performance is king there, and I don't think many would argue LCD and LCoS win on purely bang for the buck. DLP has always had a premium and probably will for some time to come.


Doesn't mean there's "something to rainbows" or that DLP is worse. Many here like DLP better, and most aren't affected by rainbows. For some the premium for DLP is worth it.

 

[Ericglo]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Tryg /forum/post/16843287


Maybe there's something to this Rainbow thing...


Last 3 years the editors choice was LCOS and LCD

http://www.projectorcentral.com/home...projectors.htm


From the AE3000 review


"One wonders... how long can some brands continue to ask $10,000 and up for 1080p projectors when you can get stunning, high contrast 1080p picture quality and an unsurpassed boatload of features for street prices close to $3,000? "

Thanks, I have now read something off of PJC for the first time in ages. I guess I will need to go take a shower.

 

[rjyap]

I just loan a demo HD82 unit for a day from local dealer. If you are not Rainbow Effect sensitive, you should take a look. I have compare to RS10 last 2 weeks in the same room and I can tell you the 3D pop for DLP is very good. RS10 is great in dark scene but good in bright scene. Optoma is OK in dark scene but great in bright scene.

 

[Daniel Hutnicki]

the one real advantage i give to DLPs is that are razor sharp. Someone people love that (I do) and some dont thinking it looks too digital. When JVC first came out with the G series Lcos\\Dila projectors, a good chunk of the buyers were former CRTS users. Although they were the first to admit that the old Dilas didnt have the black levels of the CRTs, it still had a more analog look and therefore closer look to CRT than a DLP was

 

[gvera]

I have to repeat and repeate the same thing: You have to see both tecnologies by yourself!!


They look different, some prefer one, some another.

Personally, I had an Optoma H78DC3, I demoed a Panny 3000 at home for a weekend and didn't like it at all.

I won't dare to say it was bad, but LCD is just not for me, as DLP might not be your cup of tea...

 

[Jason Turk]



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Originally Posted by gvera /forum/post/16856627


I have to repeat and repeate the same thing: You have to see both tecnologies by yourself!!


They look different, some prefer one, some another.

Personally, I had an Optoma H78DC3, I demoed a Panny 3000 at home for a weekend and didn't like it at all.

I won't dare to say it was bad, but LCD is just not for me, as DLP might not be your cup of tea...

True true. Everyone is going to have their own opinion on what performs the best, that is for sure.

 

[John Alison]

I'd have thought that for sport, video-processing and ability of the PJ to resolve motion detail would be important, with black level or the last gnat's of sharpness being a lesser concern.

 

[TheBluePill]

So..


Mitsubishi HC3800 with its DLP or Epson 6100 with its 3LCD?

 

[Canary_Jules]

I went for a demo of the HD82 and Panasonic AE4000 today. Both threw great images but in the end I preferred the HD82. I'd read many things about the dynamic iris on the HD82 being too visible but I couldn't see it. The colours seemed to be richer on the HD82 and the overall picture seemed to have more vibrancy and life. I will add one caveat - both projectors were on their factory settings, so how they would compare after calibration is another matter.