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Just to update, I popped in my Spears & Munsil calibration disk into my OPPO UDP203 and the Low Pluge pattern was not even visible until I put Black Level to High.

This was a quick calibration for SDR. It looks very good for a 1/2 hour worth of work. Plenty of detail in dark scenes like I remember. Once the tv has a few hundred hours on it I'll pull out my meter and do a full calibration.

ISF Dark:
Color Temp: Warm 2
OLED Light: 40
Contrast: 85
Brightness: 48
H Sharp: 10
V Sharp: 10
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Super Resolution: Off
Color Gamut: Auto
Edge Enhancer: On
Color Filter: Off
Gamma: 2.2
Black Level: High
Real Cinema: On
TruMotion: Off
White Balance & Color Management at Default

Something screwy is going on after this update. This is my second panel. My first panel was exchanged because of severe banding. It calibrated very differently. My new tv has less banding so I immediately updated to the new firmware but something looked off to my eyes. I guess I'm the only one having this problem?

Maybe I should try a factory reset?
This is the first post I've seen where an owner with calibrated settings are not translating to the update, interesting to see other's results. This was anticipated by a few owners as a possibility with existing calibrations.
 

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Brand new, maybe 4 hours. My old panel calibrated differently with minimal hours also. The only difference is the firmware. I don't mind, the picture looks phenomenal. Just has to be calibrated differently.
@jjref - what I thought.
 

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I'm curious what makes the fireTV the best? Do you mean the interface, or are you talking about picture quality? Why is it better than the Shield for you?
PQ, interface, usability. The Shield has colorspace issues sometimes where it will use the wrong color gamut with content (i.e. Rec2020 on 1080p content).
 

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Brand new, maybe 4 hours. My old panel calibrated differently with minimal hours also. The only difference is the firmware. I don't mind, the picture looks phenomenal. Just has to be calibrated differently.
Yeah your panel has to settle, mine was crushing as well when out of the box...after a few cycles it will change...and then you can adjust your brightness accordingly.
 

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Yeah your panel has to settle, mine was crushing as well when out of the box...after a few cycles it will change...and then you can adjust your brightness accordingly.
Ok, good to know. Thanks for your help.
 
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Don't know what other owners are seeing progressively but I'm watching Rise of the Planet of the Apes from the 4K UHD 3-movie set and it's flawless.. every low level black shadow detail, every motion, flawless.. tones, color hues.. all in the pocket. This is just the 2011 movie.. I watched the Dawn disc on the A1E and that was excellent and the more modern made movie, but I'm going through all 3 right now tonight.. the first film is just immaculate so far.. so was Harry Potter order of the Phoenix last night.

The motion here is 1:1 as the A1E.. I've watched the A1E more than likely any other owner in the world. I can back that up.

This is reference performance. What in the heck can they do in 2018 but mess it up?
 
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Don't know what other owners are seeing progressively but I'm watching Rise of the Planet of the Apes from the 4K UHD 3-movie set and it's flawless.. every low level black shadow detail, every motion, flawless.. tones, color hues.. all in the pocket. This is just the 2011 movie.. I watched the Dawn disc on the A1E and that was excellent and the more modern made movie, but I'm going through all 3 right now tonight.. the first film is just immaculate so far.. so was Harry Potter order of the Phoenix last night.

The motion here is 1:1 as the A1E.. I've watched the A1E more than likely any other owner in the world. I can back that up.

This is reference performance. What in the heck can they do in 2018 but mess it up?

Probably trying to get over 1000 nits I assume.
 

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Probably trying to get over 1000 nits I assume.
I think so but it's redundant.. OLED as a high end viewing device is best in dark environments.. the end of the planetarium scene in La La Land and the attack on Hogwarts in Hallows part 2 and the Kryptonite staff close up in Batman Vs Superman: all have hurt my eyes with 2017 nit peaks in HDR.

it will be overkill..
 

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I think so but it's redundant.. OLED as a high end viewing device is best in dark environments.. the end of the planetarium scene in La La Land and the attack on Hogwarts in Hallows part 2 and the Kryptonite staff close up in Batman Vs Superman: all have hurt my eyes with 2017 nit peaks in HDR.

it will be overkill..
Agreed...i don't see the reason to make these too bright where you get headaches, but I'm pretty sure other companies are pushing lg.
 

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Don't know what other owners are seeing progressively but I'm watching Rise of the Planet of the Apes from the 4K UHD 3-movie set and it's flawless.. every low level black shadow detail, every motion, flawless.. tones, color hues.. all in the pocket. This is just the 2011 movie.. I watched the Dawn disc on the A1E and that was excellent and the more modern made movie, but I'm going through all 3 right now tonight.. the first film is just immaculate so far.. so was Harry Potter order of the Phoenix last night.

The motion here is 1:1 as the A1E.. I've watched the A1E more than likely any other owner in the world. I can back that up.

This is reference performance. What in the heck can they do in 2018 but mess it up?
Al... I think you may have posted your technicolor settings in a previous post.

If you don't mind can you please share again what settings you are using for 4k UHD discs.

Thanks
 

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Al... I think you may have posted your technicolor settings in a previous post.

If you don't mind can you please share again what settings you are using for 4k UHD discs.

Thanks
Thanks for this question because I was about to post a note that will be a part of this response:

I use the stock setting for 4K UHD, untouched. Dynamic Contrast LOW (for Active HDR). Edge Enhancer OFF. Sharpness OFF. TruMotion Custom with DeJudder and DeBlur both on 2.

Here is where I think what I'm seeing and other members are is at an indifference:

The very best 4K UHD player here is the OPPO 203 - I'm not sure what other owners are doing but I'm forcing the 12-bit Color Depth in the OPPO 203, using Source Direct and Custom 4K mode, 4:2:2 color space. I'm doing forced 12 bit color for SDR Blu-ray Discs also (The Avengers, watch that).

Dolby Vision is 12-bit color depth also. HDR10 Discs forced in 12 bit from OPPO in my opinion is superior to DV using Technicolor Expert mode.

I'm on Dawn of the Planet of the Apes now.. and with the configuration above.. there is nothing in the world.. that damn Panasonic, whatever, touching this PQ on this config.. the Panasonic does 10-bit.. no more.

I'm desperate to find better if anyone can point to it.. please let me know.

BTW: watch the opening scene in this Dawn disc (in the exact above config) and anyone let me know what kind of motion issue the LG 7 is supposed to still be having.

To be clear to my A1E brethren.. the A1E doesn't do forced 12 bit at this time..

There is a difference.. that extra 2-bits is not a passive technicality.. any serious videophile will likely see it as a very big deal for PQ.

Anyone with the OPPO trying this (forced 12 bit) watch Planet Earth II and The Revenant and let me know your thoughts..

(note: the OPPO is going to produce flashes on the screen in this config between playback and menu, it's worth it for disc playback performance, have to live with it same as with DV discs)

P.s. I was watching Arrival 4K disc in the above forced 12-bit config.. that's what made me buy the G7 on the spot to replace the A1E.

This is Holy Grail folks :)

Oh and Mad Max Fury Road 4K disc.. watch that.. the sand storm car chase.. come to God TV moment.
 

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Thanks for this question because I was about to post a note that will be a part of this response:

I use the stock setting for 4K UHD, untouched. Dynamic Contrast LOW (for Active HDR). Edge Enhancer OFF. Sharpness OFF. TruMotion Custom with DeJudder and DeBlur both on 2.

Here is where I think what I'm seeing and other members are is at an indifference:

The very best 4K UHD player here is the OPPO 203 - I'm not sure what other owners are doing but I'm forcing the 12-bit Color Depth in the OPPO 203, using Source Direct and Custom 4K mode, 4:2:2 color space. I'm doing forced 12 bit color for SDR Blu-ray Discs also (The Avengers, watch that).

Dolby Vision is 12-bit color depth also. HDR10 Discs forced in 12 bit from OPPO in my opinion is superior to DV using Technicolor Expert mode.

I'm on Dawn of the Planet of the Apes now.. and with the configuration above.. there is nothing in the world.. that damn Panasonic, whatever, touching this PQ on this config.. the Panasonic does 10-bit.. no more.

I'm desperate to find better if anyone can point to it.. please let me know.

BTW: watch the opening scene in this Dawn disc (in the exact above config) and anyone let me know what kind of motion issue the LG 7 is supposed to still be having.

To be clear to my A1E brethren.. the A1E doesn't do forced 12 bit at this time..

There is a difference.. that extra 2-bits is not a passive technicality.. any serious videophile will likely see it as a very big deal for PQ.

Anyone with the OPPO trying this (forced 12 bit) watch Planet Earth II and The Revenant and let me know your thoughts..

(note: the OPPO is going to produce flashes on the screen in this config between playback and menu, it's worth it for disc playback performance, have to live with it same as with DV discs)

P.s. I was watching Arrival 4K disc in the above forced 12-bit config.. that's what made me buy the G7 on the spot to replace the A1E.

This is Holy Grail folks :)
Thanks Al

I'm still confused regarding Edge Enhancer. I believe LG has stated when set to ON it is actually bypassed when in HDR mode.

Can you see a difference with Edge Enhancer turned OFF or ON? I can't.
 

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Thanks Al

I'm still confused regarding Edge Enhancer. I believe LG has stated when set to ON it is actually bypassed when in HDR mode.

Can you see a difference with Edge Enhancer turned OFF or ON? I can't.
I don't use it, never have on any of my LG.
 

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Question are you leaving color gamut on auto for Technicolor hdr?
I tried this and to my surprise, "wide" looks to turn off the Technicolor color tuning. On War Planet of the Apes, turning auto to wide pushed blue and removed all dynamic color palate details because of the blue push.

The Technicolor tuning is turn-key for the Auto setting, adjusting it adjusts whatever the tuned version of the wide color gamut settings are.
 

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I tried this and to my surprise, "wide" looks to turn off the Technicolor color tuning. On War Planet of the Apes, turning auto to wide pushed blue and removed all dynamic color palate details because of the blue push.

The Technicolor tuning is turn-key for the Auto setting, adjusting it adjusts whatever the tuned version of the wide color gamut settings are.
Hmmm...interesting, I didn't see a blue push...or maybe I just wasn't looking for it but will check again.
 

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Hmmm...interesting, I didn't see a blue push...or maybe I just wasn't looking for it but will check again.
Could be the movie I'm on that produced the effect, but there is for sure a difference in color accuracy between auto and wide and extended.
 

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I noticed the current LG 77” OLED had a large price reduction at Best Buy. Is the model being changed soon?


Hiya,

Whilst I’m over in the U.K. we have also just had a huge price reduction on the 77” G). £20k down to £8k

We were told LG need to off load stock /create room for the new models likely being announced at CES in Q1 2018.

I guess kinda makes sense this would be a global issue.

Even with the new models being announced I’d assume prices would then be very high and given the high performance of the 7 series offering, it’s a great time to grab yourself a bargain


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Thanks for this question because I was about to post a note that will be a part of this response:



I use the stock setting for 4K UHD, untouched. Dynamic Contrast LOW (for Active HDR). Edge Enhancer OFF. Sharpness OFF. TruMotion Custom with DeJudder and DeBlur both on 2.



Here is where I think what I'm seeing and other members are is at an indifference:



The very best 4K UHD player here is the OPPO 203 - I'm not sure what other owners are doing but I'm forcing the 12-bit Color Depth in the OPPO 203, using Source Direct and Custom 4K mode, 4:2:2 color space. I'm doing forced 12 bit color for SDR Blu-ray Discs also (The Avengers, watch that).



Dolby Vision is 12-bit color depth also. HDR10 Discs forced in 12 bit from OPPO in my opinion is superior to DV using Technicolor Expert mode.



I'm on Dawn of the Planet of the Apes now.. and with the configuration above.. there is nothing in the world.. that damn Panasonic, whatever, touching this PQ on this config.. the Panasonic does 10-bit.. no more.



I'm desperate to find better if anyone can point to it.. please let me know.



BTW: watch the opening scene in this Dawn disc (in the exact above config) and anyone let me know what kind of motion issue the LG 7 is supposed to still be having.



To be clear to my A1E brethren.. the A1E doesn't do forced 12 bit at this time..



There is a difference.. that extra 2-bits is not a passive technicality.. any serious videophile will likely see it as a very big deal for PQ.



Anyone with the OPPO trying this (forced 12 bit) watch Planet Earth II and The Revenant and let me know your thoughts..



(note: the OPPO is going to produce flashes on the screen in this config between playback and menu, it's worth it for disc playback performance, have to live with it same as with DV discs)



P.s. I was watching Arrival 4K disc in the above forced 12-bit config.. that's what made me buy the G7 on the spot to replace the A1E.



This is Holy Grail folks :)



Oh and Mad Max Fury Road 4K disc.. watch that.. the sand storm car chase.. come to God TV moment.


That’s really interesting to hear your comments on the Oppo.

Assuming as you use source direct then when you play a regular blu day it’s the panel that’s doing the upscaling which is superior to the Oppo?

The reason I ask is I’ve had in this order:

Panny UB900
Sammy K(forget the number)
Panny UB900
Oppo 203
Panny UB700

For me 4k playback was pretty much the same across the players (with the exception of bugs / issues on the Oppo at release) but the huge difference was the upscaling.

Panny upscaling was / is brilliant. It provides such a clean, Detailed upscale picture which even the mighty Oppo just couldn’t touch hence why I got rid of it.

Have you ever tried a comparison at all between the G/W 7 and the Oppo to see differences on the picture when it comes to the upscaling?

If the G7 is better at upscaling it may be I need to get the Oppo back as Panny doesn’t have a a source direct. :-(

Delivery day has to be around about now for you isn’t it?? Lol


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