Hi Guys and Gals,
Bought the 900E 75 inch on Friday and to be honest I'm feeling frustrated and thinking about returning it to Best Buy. I was messing with setting all weekend long and can't find a sweet spot for me. Cable TV looks awful, Blurays and PS4 Pro look pretty awesome but sometimes dull at some points. I tried several of the setting from the spreadsheet on this forum. Is this because it is my first 4K tv and I'm having a hard time getting used to it? I'm coming from a 70 inch 1080p led and I really liked it. I bought the Pro and thought I would get a 4K TV, but I might just go back to the 1080p. Any thoughts, recommendations, settings are greatly appreciated.
Yes, that's the dirty little secret that they don't tell you at Best Buy or in this thread for that matter as most here are in love with the 900E and are hardcore gamers, cable-cutters, and streamers who barely watch any regular TV from a cable provider.
Compared to a 1080p panel, Cable TV looks worse on a 4K panel and if you went up a size that is exacerbating the issue. You can tweak it all day and night it's not going to make a difference. Still shots and TV news looks stellar, but NFL crowds look like a blur, MLB grass vibrates, Golf panning is painful, for live sports or any content that relies on motion it's a major step back. So, yes, if you want superior picture quality believe it or not you either have to go back to your 1080p panel or stay with 4K and go down a size to 65". This isn't the 900E's fault. It's the TV companies forcing us all to buy over-spec'd panels in an attempt to generate revenue. If you want a new big screen TV it's going to be 4K, no other options, and you're going to be disappointed.
Several of the recent posts have talked about expectations of new 4k owners and the problems they are having with cable signals looking worse than there old tvs. What I havn't heard is what the picture looks like on the Sony 900e via Dish or Direct satellite signals(i.e. Hopper 3 with HDMI out). Does the same motion, definition, blurring issues happen with those providers?
For what it's worth the biggest problem with cable is garbage in -> garbage out. No matter what settings I use on my Cox cable box the colors always look washed out, and the compression artifacts (such as macro blocks when panning) are horrible. This is exacerbated by blowing the image up to 75" because they become much more apparent. Remember the signal your cable box gets is not clean, it's actually pretty horribly compressed.
I am not sure you will ever be satisfied with the quality of cable television compared to almost every kind of input. I sure am not. This pushed me to streaming as much content as possible because it is usually much better than cable.
You may find this small article interesting: https://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-the-blockiness-in-my-tvs-picture/
Atomic Dog said it best with "garbage in, garbage out", but there's more to the story than that.
Firstly, certain content providers have better controls available on the set-top boxes. What you're really going for is to allow ALL of the output formats and then allowing the box to playback any/all content in its original format. The box should NOT be configured to support only 1080 as an output format because that will cause the box to upscale content below 1080 and then everything gets upscaled in the TV to 4K. That means that a LOT of content will get upscaled twice, and that's BAD because the process of upscaling introduces artificial (fake) pixels. Double upscaling does this twice, and you can end up with a terrible picture.
Second, it's important to understand that of the four major networks, two of them broadcast in 720! That's right... ABC and FOX programming tops out at 720 for resolution, and those channels can look slightly "washed out" for some programming.
Cabling from the street to the house (and within the house) shouldn't really have any impact on the picture quality. it's a digital transmission, and the set-top box either decodes it or it doesn't. In some cases, there may be noticeable pixelation. But, a degradation in PQ on a more subtle level shouldn't be a concern.Rico, you should reconsider the "check your cabling" advice that you often give. Those complaining about the 900E's substandard Cable TV picture quality are doing so because earlier that same day that their new 4K panel was installed the picture quality looked stellar on their old 1080p panel. Nothing happened with the cable outside their house in the 5 minutes between the old TV going out and the new TV going in.
What would be better is to just tell them the truth- the 900E, like all 4K panels, make Cable TV look worse and it's something they have to live with.