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Interested in the wider viewing angles and hope it's got noticeably less gamma shift than all the VA panels I've tried. We sit very close to the display so I guess that's a tall order.
 

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Hdmi 2.1??
I would hope so. If you look on Sony’s website, the new TVs with the X1 ultimate chip also support Dolby Atmos. But the new A8G OLED does not. It has the extreme chip. They would be crazy not to support it with the ultimate chipset.
 

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https://www.sony.com/electronics/televisions/xbr-x950g-x955g-x957g-series?showModelPrices=true

X1 Ultimate, Acoustic Multi-Audio, X-Wide Angle

also has X-tended Dynamic Range Pro, Triluminous Display, X-Motion Clarity..

Thoughts?
They forgot to add HDMI 2.1 so their whole line for 2019 is garbage as far as the customer is concerned from a value perspective.
2020 will see new consoles PS5 with new 4K Blu-ray drives with Dynamic HDR support. Too bad your new 2019 Sony TV lacks HDMI 2.1 to use this amazing new feature.
 

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https://www.sony.com/electronics/televisions/xbr-x950g-x955g-x957g-series?showModelPrices=true

X1 Ultimate, Acoustic Multi-Audio, X-Wide Angle

also has X-tended Dynamic Range Pro, Triluminous Display, X-Motion Clarity..

Thoughts?
They forgot to add HDMI 2.1 so their whole line for 2019 is garbage as far as the customer is concerned from a value perspective.
2020 will see new consoles PS5 with new 4K Blu-ray drives with Dynamic HDR support. Too bad your new 2019 Sony TV lacks HDMI 2.1 to use this amazing new feature.
The 8K sets have it not sure about the OLEDs yet has not been confirmed either way as far as I know and 2.1 is not a deal breaker unless I was getting an 8K with the proper bandwidth. So far Sony has impressed as long as these tv meet performance expectations!
 

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Hdmi 2.1??
This. Since the official link doesn't state 2.1 you have to think it's just 2.0 unless they delay the release and add it since most of their competitors do. I love the idea of better off axis viewing but I'm definitely worried about contrast. If they can keep the current black levels but have better off axis viewing and have HDMI 2.1 this will be a hit... and likely my next TV.

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So I wonder if this is still a VA panel and not IPS? I wonder what X-Wide Angle is, exactly...

Either way, personally I'm not too concerned with wide viewing angles, so I hope the contrast/black stays as good as with the X900. I'm more interested in what the new X1 Ultimate brings to the table!

HDMI 2.1 or not? I guess we will see, but I'm guessing it won't it. This isn't a Master Series.

My thoughts are that HDMI 2.1 isn't even a thing to 99% of people, and won't be for another 2-3 years or so, so I don't think it's *crazy* for Sony to release these without HDMI 2.1. I'm an enthusiast and a nerd, and even I couldn't care less about HDMI 2.1 on a TV in this price range with respect to anything but solid future proofing.
Will the average consumer require or notice the benefits from HDMI 2.1 in the next 3-5 years? Probably not.
Will the average enthusiast require or notice in the next year or two? Probably not. And in three years, most of you will probably buy a new TV anyway so whatever. =P
 

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My next set will have HDMI 2.1, as I want to future proof myself for next gen gaming consoles that are estimated to be released in 2020. I like the 900f, so was hoping HDMI 2.1 would be included in its successor. Since it wasn’t highlighted on the press release, I’m think it won’t be included.
 

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So I wonder if this is still a VA panel and not IPS? I wonder what X-Wide Angle is, exactly...

Either way, personally I'm not too concerned with wide viewing angles, so I hope the contrast/black stays as good as with the X900.
It's a VA panel with the X-wide angle layer used on the ZDF that gave it grayish blacks compared to the older Z9D. That will degrade the contrast ratio to the 3000:1 neighborhood measured for the Z9F with local dimming on - more like 1500:1 native contrast ratio which is very IPS-like. So blacks will be more grayish and the X-wide layer will likely add to blooming also. On the plus side, off angle viewing will improve close to an IPS panel.
 

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This. Since the official link doesn't state 2.1 you have to think it's just 2.0 unless they delay the release and add it since most of their competitors do. I love the idea of better off axis viewing but I'm definitely worried about contrast. If they can keep the current black levels but have better off axis viewing and have HDMI 2.1 this will be a hit... and likely my next TV.

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Even if it doesn't have "true" 48Gbps HDMI 2.1 (which would only be necessary for 4k/120Hz), eARC would be nice (Z9F/A9F have it). Also, full bandwidth (i.e. 4K HDR) on all 4 inputs would be nice. However, I'm guessing they won't support ALLM and VRR, otherwise it would have been mentioned.
 

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It's a VA panel with the X-wide angle layer used on the ZDF that gave it grayish blacks compared to the older Z9D. That will degrade the contrast ratio to the 3000:1 neighborhood measured for the Z9F with local dimming on - more like 1500:1 native contrast ratio which is very IPS-like. So blacks will be more grayish and the X-wide layer will likely add to blooming also. On the plus side, off angle viewing will improve close to an IPS panel.
Yeah it was around 1700:1 from what I've seen measured, so better than IPS but just barely. However, being a VA panel it still will likely have fairly solid black uniformity and do better with off axis blacks (no IPS glow)--at least that was the case for the Z9F.

Anyway, according to this article, only the 75 and 85 X95 have X Wide Angle.
 
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no HDMI 2.1 and X-wide to tank the contrast ? hard pass

in 2020 the 4K Sonys should have HDMI 2.1, but I hope to God they drop the X-wide crap ..





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XG95 Series (85”, 75”, 65” and 55” models) 4K HDR Full Array LED TV
- Features Picture Processor X1 Ultimate providing the ultimate 4K HDR viewing experience with the following technologies: Object-based Super Resolution, Object-based HDR remaster, Super Bit Mapping 4K HDR and Dual database processing.
- Features full-array local dimming backlight with X-tended Dynamic Range PRO that ensures 6 times the contrast of conventional LED TVs.
- Features Acoustic Multi-Audio with Sound Positioning Tweeters; delivering Sony’s Sound-from-Picture Reality experience, action and sound are precisely aligned and your viewing becomes so much more immersive.
- Features X-Wide Angle that minimises the colour change when viewed from the side; view faithful shades and hues from wherever you watch the TV (available in 85” and 75” models.)


well at least 65" XG95 wont have X-wide, thats something .. now if it only had HDMI 2.1 ..
 

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^ Is that quoted from an official Sony source? Or from a third-party? Just wondering...

I can see the X Wide being beneficial for many, but most of us with a dedicated watching spot would rather have the black levels! Ha, if I started talking about a TV's black levels to basically anyone I know... they'd be rolling their eyes so hard.
 

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Although I thought the Z9F looked pretty good, a lot of its specs sorely disappoint compared to the Z9D

So I guess realistically the X95G wont be better or as good as the Z9F or will it...I hope I am wrong

I guess I will just have to get a Z9G...ya right lol
 

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Although I thought the Z9F looked pretty good, a lot of its specs sorely disappoint compared to the Z9D

So I guess realistically the X95G wont be better or as good as the Z9F or will it...I hope I am wrong

I guess I will just have to get a Z9G...ya right lol
The Z9F is great for a lighted family room, not so much for a traditional dark theater room. The X95G is the mid-level LCD, a follow-on to the 900E and 900F, so it certainly will NOT be as good as the Z9F. It will have fewer zones, won't be as bright, so will have a lower PQ.
 
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