I feel the same way. Thanks for letting me know about the 2019 banding issues, I wasn't aware.Excited about this TV also! I am looking for an 85 inch and it needs to have HDMI 2.1 and dolby vision. It comes down to Sony and Vizio for me and the Vizio is really looking great on paper (800 dimming zones and up to 3k nits). Hopefully the new processor fixes some of the banding issues which seemed to be one of the biggest complaints about the 2019 version.
Hopefully, this is closer in scale to the 2016 p vs the 2018 quantum. I own both and the 2016 wipes the floor in standard content. Besides the quantum dots the 2018 was a step back in every other area. With improvements in processing and hdmi 2.1 I will again take my chances and be an early adapter. I'm looking forward to a 75 or 85 inch quantamX. If prices are extremely low to start that could be an indication of them continuing to offer value only vs quality.Some of the prices this year will be insane at 85" and even the lower quality options will drive down the high end Vizio PQX. Notably, the 85" from Hisense will be retailing at $1400 which means close to a $999 sale price later. Sure, not the brightest and not FALD, but it should be a very good TV compatred to non-FALDs of 2 years ago with decent local dimming. I would not be shocked to see the Vizio PX 85 hit the $2000 range by Black Friday, but I do not think it can drop much lower than that without them losing money like China is willing to do to capture the market.
Vizio's flagship always seems to release at a high MSRP initially, then gets some decent discounts after awhile. I seem to recall that the 2019 PQX 75 initially released at something like $3600? Then got down to $1600 by BF and now is back up to $2200.
$2500 would be a miracle. Samsung doesn't have Dolby Vision and Sony doesn't have great gaming features (ironically). TCL is only 60hz and Hinsense's have been historically...bad. This year, Vizio seems to hit the sweet spot. I would still opt for a 77 LG C9 if I could afford a $5k TV.The 85” needs to come in at $2500 and then get some drops to $1999 to move the units. Vizio lost a lot of ground due to quality and pricing so they need to fix that more than add features. HiSense and TCL are it’s competition, not Samsung and Sony.
That’ll be too high. Not saying it won’t be there, but it will be slow seller at that price. Lots of Mrs will see the $1500-2500 gap from 75” and put the kibosh on that much of a jump. $1500 gets a pretty decent 75” TV. At $4k, two 75” TVs would be cheaper.Hoping it starts around the $4K mark which would be a great price compared to the Sony and Samsung higher end 85inch offerings.
MSRP is just a number, for any manufacturerThat’ll be too high. Not saying it won’t be there, but it will be slow seller at that price. Lots of Mrs will see the $1500-2500 gap from 75” and put the kibosh on that much of a jump. $1500 gets a pretty decent 75” TV. At $4k, two 75” TVs would be cheaper.
If Vizio had a good reputation, perhaps. They don’t. That’s why the 75” PQX fell off a cliff from their MSRP. It’s “suggested” after all.