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Link to official LG C1 page,

KEY FEATURES
  • Self-lighting OLED: Perfect Black, Intense Color, Infinite Contrast
  • α9 Gen 4 AI Processor 4K with AI Picture Pro/Sound Pro
  • Dolby Vision IQ and Dolby Atmos
  • webOS + ThinQ AI w/ Magic Remote
  • Gaming: G-SYNC Compatible, FreeSync, VRR, ALLM
4x HDMI 2.1 40Gbps 4k 120Hz ports

Approximate average brightness testing in accurate HDR modes.
700-750 nits 10% window (CX was 650-700)
125-135 nits 100% window (CX was 120-130)

Launch MSRP pricing,
48" $1500
55" $1800
65" $2500
77" $3800
83" $6000


Link to official LG G1 page,

KEY FEATURES

  • Gallery Design: Designed to put the spotlight on your content and complement your home's interior
  • Self-lighting OLED: Perfect Black, Intense Color, Infinite Contrast
  • α9 Gen4 AI Processor 4K with AI Picture Pro & AI Sound Pro
  • Dolby Vision IQ and Dolby Atmos
  • webOS & ThinQ AI w/ Hands-Free Voice Control
4x HDMI 2.1 40Gbps 4k 120Hz ports
ATSC 3.0 Tuner

Approximate average brightness testing in accurate HDR modes.
760-810 nits 10% window
150-170 nits 100% window

Launch MSRP pricing
55" $2200
65" $3000
77" $4500

No included stand, only flush wall mount. Legs are $100 extra



Break In Period

Attached are color slides, you can save them to a USB drive and follow the steps in the video above to run them during the first 100-200 hours when you aren't using the TV.
 

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LG G1 playlist
LG C1 playlist

Recommended settings post break in

Disable eco settings, and recommend disable AI settings (will have to multiple times for different kinds of content and sources)

SDR Bright Room / TV Settings

ISF Expert Bright

OLED Brightness - 60-100
Contrast 85
Screen Brightness 50
Dynamic Contrast off
Peak Brightness off (will harm color accuracy)
Gamma 2.2
Black Level auto
Motion Eye Care off

Color Depth 50
Tint 0
Color Gamut Auto Detect
Fine Tune off
White Balance Warm 50

Sharpness 0
Super Resolution off
Noise Reduction off
MPEG Noise Reduction off
Smooth Gradation off or low
Cinema Screen on or personal preference
TruMotion Off or personal preference


SDR Dark Room / Movie Settings

ISF Expert Dark

OLED Brightness 35-55
Contrast 85
Screen Brightness 50
Dynamic Contrast off
Peak Brightness off
Gamma BT.1886
Black Level auto
Motion Eye Care off

Color Depth 50
Tint 0
Color Gamut Auto Detect
Fine Tune off
White Balance Warm 50

Sharpness 0
Super Resolution off
Noise Reduction off
MPEG Noise Reduction off
Smooth Gradation off or low
Cinema Screen on or personal preference
TruMotion Off or personal preference


SDR Game Settings

Game Optimizer mode

OLED Brightness 100
Contrast 85-97 (doesn't clip white, clips some color but needed for brightness)
Screen Brightness 50-52
Dynamic Contrast off
Peak Brightness off
Gamma 2.2
Black Level auto
Motion Eye Care off

Color Depth 55 (helps the appearance of some loss of color having contrast turned up)
Tint 0
Color Gamut Auto Detect
Fine Tune off
White Balance Warm 50

Sharpness 0
Super Resolution off
Noise Reduction off
MPEG Noise Reduction off
Smooth Gradation off
Cinema Screen off
TruMotion Off


HDR10 TV / Movie Settings

Cinema Home and Cinema are the same when they have the same settings

OLED Brightness 100
Contrast 100
Screen Brightness 50
Dynamic Contrast off
HDR Tone Mapping off (on if you want brighter mid range and near black, not accurate)
Peak Brightness High
Gamma 2.2 (greyed out)
Black Level auto
Motion Eye Care off

Color Depth 50
Tint 0
Color Gamut Auto Detect
Fine Tune off
White Balance Warm 50

Sharpness 0
Super Resolution off
Noise Reduction off
MPEG Noise Reduction off
Smooth Gradation off or low
Cinema Screen on or personal preference
TruMotion Off or personal preference


HDR10 Game Settings

Game Optimizer

OLED Brightness 100
Contrast 100
Screen Brightness 50
Dynamic Contrast off
HDR Tone Mapping HGiG
Peak Brightness High
Gamma 2.2 (greyed out)
Black Level auto
Motion Eye Care off

Color Depth 55
Tint 0
Color Gamut Auto Detect
Fine Tune off
White Balance Warm 50

Sharpness 0
Super Resolution off
Noise Reduction off
MPEG Noise Reduction off
Smooth Gradation off
Cinema Screen off
TruMotion Off


Dolby Vision TV / Movie Settings

Cinema (accurate) Cinema Home (similar to having dynamic tone mapping on)

OLED Brightness 100
Contrast 100
Screen Brightness 50
Dynamic Contrast off
Peak Brightness High
Gamma 2.2 (greyed out)
Black Level auto
Motion Eye Care off

Color Depth 50
Tint 0
Color Gamut Native (greyed out)
Fine Tune off
White Balance Warm 50

Sharpness 0
Super Resolution off
Noise Reduction off
MPEG Noise Reduction off
Smooth Gradation off or low
Cinema Screen on or personal preference
TruMotion Off or personal preference


Dolby Vision Game Settings

Game Optimizer

OLED Brightness 100
Contrast 100
Screen Brightness 50
Dynamic Contrast off
Peak Brightness High
Gamma 2.2 (greyed out)
Black Level auto
Motion Eye Care off

Color Depth 55
Tint 0
Color Gamut Native (greyed out)
Fine Tune off
White Balance Warm 50

Sharpness 0
Super Resolution off
Noise Reduction off
MPEG Noise Reduction off
Smooth Gradation off
Cinema Screen off
TruMotion Off


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Discussion Starter · #3 · (Edited)
The ‘OLED Cell Info’ codes are organized with 3 subfields:

WOLED Stack Generation / Cut Technology / Factory of Origin.

WOLED Stack Generation currently has 2 codes which have been confirmed:

WBC or White Balance ‘C’ is the 3S3C Blue-Red/Yellow-Blue WOLED stack introduced for 2016 model year.

WBE or White Balance ‘E’ is the 3S4C Blue-Red/Yellow/Green-Blue WOLED stack LGE started introducing into 2020 products and introduced as ‘Evo’ in 2021.

Cut Technology currently has 2 codes which have been confirmed:

MMG means that the panel was produced using Multi Modal Glass technology. MMG can be used to produce virtually any WOLED panel size LGD is currently producing.

ONE means that the panel was produced on an 8.5G sheet containing only ‘ONE’ panel size and capable of being being cut without requiring MMG (the ‘old’ way).

Factory of Origin currently has 2 codes which have been confirmed:

GZ is the new 8.5G factory in Guangzhou, China.

PJ is the original and oldest 8.5G factory in Paju, Korea.

So a 55” WOLED with code ‘WBE/MMG/GZ’ was one of two 55” WOLEDs manufactured with the new 3S4C / WBE WOLED stack alongside two 77” WOLEDs using Multi Modal Glass technology in Guangzhou

while a 55” WOLED with code ‘WBC/ONE/PJ’ was one of six WOLEDs manufactured with the old 3S3C / WBC WOLED stack without the need of Multi Modal Glass technology in Paju, Korea.

We expect all OLED Cell Info codes out of Paju to switch from WBC to WBE before the end of this year (none reported yet…).

Reserved post 3

I'll have a lengthier review here in the next couple of days.

Here is a shot of the 55" C1 by my 85" Sony X900H, and I wasn't expecting the difference I'm seeing. The X900H is no slouch and in an SDR bright colorful game like fortnite, it is brighter overall (especially given the size difference) but the contrast difference with the C1 is instantly noticable. As are the vastly superior viewing angles.

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Waiting for next year. Ridiculous that the Evo panel is reserved solely for the G1 and not the C1. Not even the top of the line 8K Z1 gets the Evo panel.
 

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C1 vs CX comparison post updated with preliminary results.

I highly doubt the panels are any different. I'm struggling to see any difference between them, with the exception of upscaling on the C1 being a better. Out of box colors seem to have a little more depth to them on the C1, but that's only with very basic setting changes and not a full color calibration.
 

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C1 vs CX comparison post updated with preliminary results.

I highly doubt the panels are any different. I'm struggling to see any difference between them, with the exception of upscaling on the C1 being a better. Out of box colors seem to have a little more depth to them on the C1, but that's only with very basic setting changes and not a full color calibration.
Thanks for posting this. I'm assuming you'll get to it after some runtime, but how's the uniformity on both out of the box? Any DSE or serious banding?

It's interesting the scaling is better. I usually left that to a streaming box (Nvidia Shield) but that's not always an option.
 

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Hey guys I picked up the 77C1 and I keep having issues regarding ARC with my Denon receiver. I actually got it to work once by allowing the Denon reciever to use the TVAudio assistant. Unfortunately it hasn't worked since. I don't see the "DIG" icon and it won't turn on with the AV receiver. Oddly enough I turned off the display earlier and it turned off the Denon as well.

I have the HDMI cable connected to receiver on port 2 and I haven't changed cables from my previous 77C9(still feels odd typing this, LG really needs to name these sets differently). Does anyone have any ideas I can try? I'd rather not use an optical cable if I can help it.
 

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I don't know if this picture is showing raised blacks on the CX when gaming vs not raising them on the C1, or if something else is going on. Shadow detail is the same but blacks and really dark areas seem more grey on the CX.
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Does this mean that the raised black/gamma changes with VRR and flicker issues that were a hindrance in the CX has been solved on the C1? By the way does the C1 have the full 48gbps hdmi 2.1 bandwidth?
 

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Does this mean that the raised black/gamma changes with VRR and flicker issues that were a hindrance in the CX has been solved on the C1? By the way does the C1 have the full 48gbps hdmi 2.1 bandwidth?
Nope, 40 per some guys on YouTube.

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I'm removing the preliminary C1 vs CX thoughts and pictures. For them being preliminary, they were quite wrong lol. At least I found out what was going on. The C1 color gamut was on "Auto" which really threw off color accuracy. Setting it to native (in SDR modes) was way better, less red push, and color depth and tint were now accurate at 51 and G1.

I reset both the C1 and CX and spent more time doing all the settings over with the Disney Wow Blu-ray, the Xbox calibration tool, and Lagom-lcd website. They are now both extremely even and when I get home from work will go through with more content to find differences if any.
 
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