I think I'm about done with this. I'm going back to DVD for now. I was a big HD-DVD backer up until now. I have an HD-A1 and and A2. I still haven't recieved the firmware upgrade that I sent away for. I'm tired of this. I don't know if it's the players or the discs but this format is way to fragile. I don't know if BD is better but I've had about enough of this crap. The disc wasen't perfect but it should be able to play. I've had DVDs that look horrible and still play. This thing has a couple of scratches and can't play half way though the movie. This sucks! Why do I waste my time with this format?
3 rented HD-DVDs in a row do not play!
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Over 40 HD-DVDs all playing back fine in my house. A1 had a few hiccups once in a while then exchanged it for A2 which has been flawless even with all current combos Departed, Miami Vice, Superman, Children of men etc.
If you have defective player you should exchange it.
If you have defective player you should exchange it.
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BDs are scratch proof.
But no sratches is the upside of buying everything new. The downside is money flys out of your bank account.
Haven't had a problem with either format yet, not even CoM(/knocks on wood).
But no sratches is the upside of buying everything new. The downside is money flys out of your bank account.
Haven't had a problem with either format yet, not even CoM(/knocks on wood).
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Actually the upside to buying everything new is the ability to own everything new so I don't have to rent it.
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Nice; plus it has that new dvd case smell. Sometimes you even get extra glue.
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Too bad the scent isn't in HD too.
Nice; plus it has that new dvd case smell. Sometimes you even get extra glue.
Too bad the scent isn't in HD too.
Why don't you just download the firmware updates for your players burm the image file to a DVD-r using Nero and update the players? On some of the newer titles they require the latest firmware to play and they even include a note telling you that in the title case.
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BDs are not scratch proof. They're only more scratch resistant. There have been quite a few reports of scratched or cracked Blu-ray movies that fail to play properly or play at all. And the scratch resistant coating isn't there as an option. It absolutely necessary, otherwise BDs would be rendered useless in no time.
BDs are not scratch proof. They're only more scratch resistant. There have been quite a few reports of scratched or cracked Blu-ray movies that fail to play properly or play at all. And the scratch resistant coating isn't there as an option. It absolutely necessary, otherwise BDs would be rendered useless in no time.
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I feel better knowing that the BDA is so concerned about the functionality of their disc.
Now if Uni would take notice.
Thanks for the info, I always thought my BDs were inferior to my HD DVDs. Now I see its different.
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I feel better knowing that the BDA is so concerned about the functionality of their disc.
Now if Uni would take notice.
Thanks for the info, I always thought my BDs were inferior to my HD DVDs. Now I see its different.
The problem is no one can afford the TDK stuff on movie releases so their is no spec just a requirement that they have a hard coating. In the Future where Sony and Sony Friends are not the only ones making BDs, there could end up being hundreds of different coatings which actually would increase the chance of an incompatibility with a player.
HD-DVD is the same thickness of DVD and as testing has proved the same type of scratches make this act up the same way on DVD. Which is to say that most scratches won't prevent or stop playback but treating these expensive discs (anything over $1 a disc) nicely is the way to go to make sure you can always use it. All the Hard coating does is create false sense of security so stupid people can throw around the discs and leave them out face down on equipment and so forth till they make the disc unreadable and then they are forced to beat themselves up and purchase a new disc.
No one ever takes care of rentals and if you didn't know it you should. That said I went through a two week period where I couldn't get a DVD to playback correctly from Netflix and once I even got the same scratched disc I sent back. Multiple times I have had to take discs to my friends so he could take it to his work (Hollywood Video) and have them professionally repair the disc. Guess What every non cracked disc I gave him worked fine afterwards. Which brings me to the final point. BRD can't be fixed due to the hard coating. If like that video Fett showed you do finally reach a point where the disc can't be read, then you are SOL without even the option of possible repairs.
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I feel better knowing that the BDA is so concerned about the functionality of their disc.
Now if Uni would take notice.
Thanks for the info, I always thought my BDs were inferior to my HD DVDs. Now I see its different.![]()
The problem is no one can afford the TDK stuff on movie releases so their is no spec just a requirement that they have a hard coating. In the Future where Sony and Sony Friends are not the only ones making BDs, there could end up being hundreds of different coatings which actually would increase the chance of an incompatibility with a player.
HD-DVD is the same thickness of DVD and as testing has proved the same type of scratches make this act up the same way on DVD. Which is to say that most scratches won't prevent or stop playback but treating these expensive discs (anything over $1 a disc) nicely is the way to go to make sure you can always use it. All the Hard coating does is create false sense of security so stupid people can throw around the discs and leave them out face down on equipment and so forth till they make the disc unreadable and then they are forced to beat themselves up and purchase a new disc.
No one ever takes care of rentals and if you didn't know it you should. That said I went through a two week period where I couldn't get a DVD to playback correctly from Netflix and once I even got the same scratched disc I sent back. Multiple times I have had to take discs to my friends so he could take it to his work (Hollywood Video) and have them professionally repair the disc. Guess What every non cracked disc I gave him worked fine afterwards. Which brings me to the final point. BRD can't be fixed due to the hard coating. If like that video Fett showed you do finally reach a point where the disc can't be read, then you are SOL without even the option of possible repairs.
I am so glad that I don't have to be the one creating logarithms to compensate for scratches on HD DVD or BD dics in their appropriate drives, because I suck at math.
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It is dense and fragile and I feel for the OP, as both are an expensive and frustrating format right now, but when they play...they look and sound SWEEEEEET!
LOL! I guess "The Look and Sound of SWEEEEEEEEEET!" would fly better than "Perfect", as we know it is far from "Perfect" yet.
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It is dense and fragile and I feel for the OP, as both are an expensive and frustrating format right now, but when they play...they look and sound SWEEEEEET!
LOL! I guess "The Look and Sound of SWEEEEEEEEEET!" would fly better than "Perfect", as we know it is far from "Perfect" yet.
WHat the hell are people doing with these rentals???? I've gotten some scary rentals, thanks god they have been combo's......
I have a friend who refusess to put back a game, cd, dvd back in it's case once he is done with them....Then the kicker is when they don't play he gets furious.....
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AHHHHHH...it's the funniest thing to see......It's like that mouse who takes a bite of the cheese, and gets shock every time
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I have a friend who refusess to put back a game, cd, dvd back in it's case once he is done with them....Then the kicker is when they don't play he gets furious.....
AHHHHHH...it's the funniest thing to see......It's like that mouse who takes a bite of the cheese, and gets shock every time
djoel
I share the OP's frustration. I have an A2 that has issues. I've read the posts from owners that have the A2 that work flawlessly, so instead of giving up on the format, I returned my A2 (under warranty) to the Toshiba Depot service center in MA. I expect to get it back in about a week. If it isn't functioning correctly after the first repair, I will send back to them again. I love the PQ too much to give up at this time.
My first Add-on drive had trouble playing many rented and even some new discs. It eventually stopped playing HD DVDs altogether. My second hasn't had a hiccup since. In fact, last night I played, without issue, a rented copy of Accepted that was the most scratched HD DVD I've seen. I think variations in manufacturing quality of the blue-diodes explain my dramatically different experiences. It causes lots of frustration when you have a unit that works sometimes and doesn't others.
We see posts like the OP every week. Are you trying to convince us to give-up too or just venting? Did anyone catch that recent Fettastic thread, about jumping off the HD DVD "ship", before it was deleted? It was surreal.
What is the point of such ridiculous exaggeration?
We see posts like the OP every week. Are you trying to convince us to give-up too or just venting? Did anyone catch that recent Fettastic thread, about jumping off the HD DVD "ship", before it was deleted? It was surreal.
What is the point of such ridiculous exaggeration?
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I think the keyword here is RENTED which should explain most everything. Otherwise contain your frustration until after you update your firmware.
I think the keyword here is RENTED which should explain most everything. Otherwise contain your frustration until after you update your firmware.
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