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Okay, the HD DVD promotional group has announced that they are planning to release 300 titles this year. Will that number be enough to sustain the current strong momentum of HD DVD? I would say 300 titles for consumers to choose from IS WAY MORE than enough. What is the consumer trend for DVD? average 30 DVD purchases a year? How many people actually have more than 1/2 of the 300 figure of their DVD collection after 10years? So why are there people claiming that the lack of title announcement will hurt HD DVD? Because BDA says so and because that is what they want consumers to believe? 300 titles per year is like almost 1 title per day. What say you people?
 

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What say you people?

The stuff I've seen has been for worldwide. Would you consider 180 non-porn titles in the US to be enough for the HD DVD format for 2007?


If they are good enough titles it might be enough. As far as momentum, if there aren't enough in the first 4 months of the year then it will be hard to maintain that momentum no matter how many are released in Q4. They could of course start building momentum later in the year, but maintaining it requires enough titles.


It would be really interesting to see what your response would be if it was HD DVD that had more titles coming out over the next couple of months and Blu-ray that had few exclusive titles announced.


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The stuff I've seen has been for worldwide. Would you consider 180 non-porn titles in the US to be enough for the HD DVD format for 2007?


If they are good enough titles it might be enough. As far as momentum, if there aren't enough in the first 4 months of the year then it will be hard to maintain that momentum no matter how many are released in Q4. They could of course start building momentum later in the year, but maintaining it requires enough titles.


It would be really interesting to see what your response would be if it was HD DVD that had more titles coming out over the next couple of months and Blu-ray that had few exclusive titles announced.


--Darin

wow 120 porn titles? whoooppppps ... Shinco, where are your cheap HD DVD players !!!!



with 2mil STANDALONE players are projected to be sold (this is just a conservative number
) , i would say that the momentum would continue to be strong. And somehow, i sense you are purty sure that all BD exclusive studios WILL REMAIN exclusive for the whole of 2007. I wouldnt bet my money on that though
.


The difference between HD DVD and Blu-ray is, Blu-ray IS ALL about deprieving consumers of content to force to embrace blue. So content and exclusivity is currently their SOLE selling point. If HD DVD continues to lead in title releases, then i see more trouble for BD. Lets face it, content is more of a BD problem than it is for HD DVD. Basically, in order for BD not to perish into thin air, they need to have more titles especially exclusive titles.
 

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wow 120 porn titles?

No, you said that, I didn't say that. You misinterpreted what I said. As I said:
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The stuff I've seen has been for worldwide. Would you consider 180 non-porn titles in the US to be enough for the HD DVD format for 2007?

Notice the "in the US". The question still stands. Or are you expecting 300 titles in the US?
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If HD DVD continues to lead in title releases, then i see more trouble for BD.

And do you expect that to happen, or is this one of those "ifs" that has little likelyhood of happening? If you think that HD DVD is going to continue leading in title releases, how do you think they are going to do that? I've seen you say that HD DVD doesn't need Universal to be exclusive to sell players. While there are always people who will buy players, I bet Toshiba and Microsoft consider keeping Universal exclusive to be very important at this point.


With Universal announcing one title for February 6th and now a couple of titles for April 17th, it doesn't look like HD DVD is going to be able to keep the title lead for long without getting one of the Blu-ray studios to go neutral or switch. That is just the reality regardless of which side a person is rooting for.


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Notice the "in the US". The question still stands. Or are you expecting 300 titles in the US?

There are plenty of consumers importing titles from Europe and Japan. HD DVD is not region coded. Well unless the good old conversative Republican law makers think it underminds family value to make purchase from Non-US sites. U know .. as they did with the Online gaming thingy.


And do you expect that to happen, or is this one of those "ifs" that has little likelyhood of happening? If you think that HD DVD is going to continue leading in title releases, how do you think they are going to do that? I've seen you say that HD DVD doesn't need Universal to be exclusive to sell players. While there are always people who will buy players, I bet Toshiba and Microsoft consider keeping Universal exclusive to be very important at this point.


I am a logical boy. I can do simple math. I know that BD has several exclusive studios and i expect to see more Blu-ray releases in the future. However, i might say that i dont the studio exclusivity to remain (on both side) FOREVER as what some higher power would want consumers to believe.

As for the universal exclusivity thingy, the ONLY reason that i see why they are still exclusive is to prevent BDA from creating media paranoia or media hype that HD DVD is doomed because of lack of content as (yet again), studio will follow where the money is. We have already seen what BDA can do when it comes to the media hype. If consumers like HD DVD, they should not worry about getting an obsolete format because, once they are millions of standalone HD DVD players, studios will provide contents. There are still contents in UMD format isnt it?


With Universal announcing one title for February 6th and now a couple of titles for April 17th, it doesn't look like HD DVD is going to be able to keep the title lead for long without getting one of the Blu-ray studios to go neutral or switch. That is just the reality regardless of which side a person is rooting for.

yupe, true and its good for BD players owners anyway



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Yes, I consider it a treat to buy one HD DVD per week. Even if they don't release ANY new titles this year, there are still plenty for me to choose from.


If I were to purchase any more than that per week, it just wouldn't be special anymore and I'd end up with more titles than I wish to own with little time to watch them.


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The difference between HD DVD and Blu-ray is, Blu-ray IS ALL about deprieving consumers of content to force to embrace blue. So content and exclusivity is currently their SOLE selling point. If HD DVD continues to lead in title releases, then i see more trouble for BD. Lets face it, content is more of a BD problem than it is for HD DVD. Basically, in order for BD not to perish into thin air, they need to have more titles especially exclusive titles.

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Answer this for me ( us ) is it 300 or 600 titles in the US ( North America )?

 

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Who knows prehapps the number is higher many of the porn studios just jumped on th HDDVD side. So the 300 tittles should all be regular movies. Hopfully most are US releases. Which would mean even more over seas tittles.


How many HDDVDs are out now 200 or so..
 

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Well we cannot assume that new buyers will recognize just the new 300 titles. Any new HD DVD buyer will have access to the full catalog so we're talking more along the lines of 500+ total titles with 300 being the newest.


If HD DVD hits 2 million players the battle is over. Blu-ray doesn't lose and HD DVD doesn't win but rather both formats co-exist. 2 million players are too large a number to ignore just as 6 million PS3/BD players are too large a number to ignore. These numbers ensure a stalemate if hit together.
 

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Well we cannot assume that new buyers will recognize just the new 300 titles. Any new HD DVD buyer will have access to the full catalog so we're talking more along the lines of 500+ total titles with 300 being the newest.


If HD DVD hits 2 million players the battle is over. Blu-ray doesn't lose and HD DVD doesn't win but rather both formats co-exist. 2 million players are too large a number to ignore just as 6 million PS3/BD players are too large a number to ignore. These numbers ensure a stalemate if hit together.

Last number I've seen for HD-DVD players (1-15-07) that have found a home is 270,000. 150,000 add-ons for the 360, 120,000 standalones. It's a good start but a ways off from 2 million.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070115-8625.html
 

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Last number I've seen for HD-DVD players (1-15-07) that have found a home is 270,000. 150,000 add-ons for the 360, 120,000 standalones. It's a good start but a ways off from 2 million.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070115-8625.html


No doubt. They have some selling to do if they wish to hit that number. Toshiba's going to have to drop the A2 down to $399 and hopefully the Lite On, Shinco, Alco and ED Digital players are on time.


2.5 million worldwide is a lofty goal. If they hit that they survive. Period.
 

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It is if you want that particular content.


I'll be sooo glad when an affordable and fully functioning (I'm looking at you LG and no HDi) dual format player hits. (affordable = $600 or less for me)


My content interests are mostly on BD....almost all on BD, but there are quite a few Universal flicks like King Kong, Jurassic Park...etc that I'm interested in.


BTW, does anyone have a feeling that Jurassic Park is going to lose much of its "allure" in HD. The CG is aging badly now and I just see HD as the final nail in its believability coffin.
 
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