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Go here and put in 38" 4:3 vs 36" 16:9. http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi


In a nutshell:


16:9 images on the 4:3 tv will look like you are using a 34.9" 16:9 tv.


4:3 images on the 16:9 tv will look like a 29.4" 4:3 tv (thats w/o streching or zooming).


I made this image (see attachment) one day trying to figure out how big a 16:9 tv I'd have to get to match the 27" 4:3 that I already have. ...so that I wouldn't feel like I was getting a smaller 4:3 tv.
 

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Thanks.


According to that, the 38" 4:3 TV is the better choice as its 16:9 screen size is pretty close to that of the 36" 16:9. However, the 4:3 image is MUCH bigger on the 38" 4:3 than the 36" 16:9. I guess I should get the 38" 4:3. Would you agree?
 

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BTW, I will be watching DVDs and playing Xbox on the TV. I will not be watching regular TV on the TV.
 

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Kain,


First of all, I wasn't aware of a 38" 4:3 and a 36" 16:9. I am aware, however, of a 38" 16:9 (RCA, ProScan, Loewe) and 36" 4:3 TV's go withoug saying. Truth is, as far as anamorphic widescreen material is concerned (virtually all major DVD releases of the last year or two or three and HDTV), there's really no substitute for a 16:9 screen. Even if the widescreen image is virtually the same height on both sets, and even with the 4:3 set utilizing vertical compression, you're not getting the best resolution out of the 4:3 set. I was just comparing a 36" Sony 4:3 with an HD source to a 34" Toshiba 16:9 with the same source (both set's calibrated as close to each other as possible and the true 16:9 image on the Toshiba is clearly better. If you're going to be watching DVD's, HD and X-Box, the 16:9 set is your best bet.


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I live in Dubai, UAE and the models are different than to that of the USA and also the screen sizes. The 38" 4:3 is a Sony and the 36" 16:9 is a Panasonic.


Anyway, I think I'll get the Panasonic 36" 16:9. :)
 

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No such things. Basically, we have 34" 16X9's and one 40" 4:3 with a 36" 16X9 squeeze area. I'll go for the 40 incher when I have the chance.
 

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Outside of the USA TVs are measured like computer monitors: the full CRT size, not just the viewable area. US TVs are speced by the viewable area. The 38" 4:3 referred to is a 36" 4:3 in the USA and the 36" 16:9 is a 34" 16:9 in the USA. Just different definitions, same sets.


I went with the 16:9 model. The 4:3 model does have more total screen area, and the 16:9 image is less than 1" narrower than the 16:9 model, while the 16:9 model really shrinks the 4:3 image. But the 16:9 images are the high quality images that I want maximized and shown in the best possible resolution. Big low resolution fuzzy 4:3 images are of no interest. The 16:9 model also gets my center speaker down several inches lower.
 

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I own a F-38310 which is really a 40 inch tube only 38 inches are active. In inches it gives me 19 inch vertical and 33.25 inch width. My measurements are inside the glass screen area, if your talking 36 inches take off 1 inch from my vertical

and your width would be 31.5 inches. Since my format is 16 X 9 of the RCA F-38310.


When meausuring you take 1/2 of the diaginal for height and 7/8 is your width from the same diaginol for 16 X 9 format. :)
 

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Originally posted by Allan Mack http://homepage.mac.com/hdtv_guide/ [/b]
Nice site, very well done. Thanks for the link.


edit: just wanted to add: The site comes to the conclusion that the 4:3 is a better purchase. Nice comparisons are made. It's definately a pro-4:3 site, which is fine. Its good read for someone who is trying to convince themselves into getting a larger 4:3 over a smaller 16:9. In my case I'm trying to convince myself to get a 16:9 that is larger than my 4:3 (see post above) - which almost any 16:9 set is larger than my 27" trinitron.


One thing isn't mentioned on the site is the set dimentions (at least I didn't see it). The 36' 4:3 and 34" 16:9 seem to be the same width. The 4:3 is quite a bit taller, what about wieghts, thats an issue too. Is the 4:3 heavier?
 

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From the Sony website:

http://www.sonystyle.com/electronics...pid=9931&pno=1


The 4:3 sets include: 40" xbr700 is Dimensions: 43" x 33" x 26" 1093mm x 836mm x 661mm Weight: 286Lbs. 130 Kg. The 36" FD Trinitron® WEGA® TV KV-36HS20 is Dimensions: ( W x H x L)39 1/8" x 29 11/16" x 24 1/2" Weight: 235 lbs. The 4:3 27" FD Trinitron® WEGA® TV KV-27FV300 is Weight: 105 lbs 13 oz (48kgs) Dimensions: 30 7/8 x 23 3/4 x 20 1/2" (784x601.5x520mm) (WxHxD)


The 16:9 widescreen 34" FD Triniton® WEGA® High Definition TV KD-34XBR2 is Weight:93 Kg. 206 Lbs Dimensions: 944mm x 622mm x 591mm 39 1/4" x 24 1/2" x 23 3/8". Will the new 34" sony widescreen xbr800 without hi def OTA tuner be lighter? I cannot find dimensions and weight yet on the new lines.


The big tube weights look like an NFL roster. Must be one reason some choose plasma. :D.


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From the Sony Evolve Fall/Winter 2001 Catalog, page 17 (Canadian edition):

Sony KV36XBR450:

994mm W x 755mm H x 622mm D

39-1/8" W x 29-11/16" H x 24-1/2" D

107 kg/235 lbs

Sony KD34XBR2:

994mm W x 622mm H x 591mm D

39-1/8" W x 24-1/2" H x 23-7/8" D

93 kg/206 lbs


The two TVs are the same width overall, but the 34" model is smaller and lighter in all other respects. The speaker grills in the 34" model are also narrower, which allows for a wider screen...
 

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I have the Sony KD-34XBR2 (34" 16:9 widescreen). This TV is absolutely great! It is the perfect choice for watching Progressive DVDs, especially the widescreen movies. The built-in HDTV antenna is nice too. I can pick up the big 3 networks via an OTA UHF antenna in the attic of my garage (Goffstown, NH). There isn't much programming for HD yet, but just watch Alias with it and you will be SOLD.


The built-in iLink capability is a bit of a disapointment. It does not even support Sony Digital8 cameras. :-(
 

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I went for the Sony KV-40XBR700 40" HDTV capable set. Since we watch more regular TV than DVDs, the TV 4:3 maximizes the screen size. DVDs get played back at 16:9 mode and this 40" set gives you an anamorphic widescreen of 2.35:1 at 14.6" high by 32" wide or a 37.8" diagonal. The 2.35:1 ratio is about as wide as they get (or as short as they get). This Sony XBR does use all of its available resolution in the 16:9 mode, so the lines of resolution are tighter or squeezed down into the viewable area on the screen. So you just get black bars above and below the picture, which work out fine since the set has a black 2" trim around the screen.


For a bright direct view set, viewable during the day and in sunlight, this is a good way to go. It gives you more widescreen than a 34" diagonal set does and you can't beat a 40" for regular TV screen size. I think the next step up will be a 100"+ via an HD projector for night viewing, using the 40" as the daytime monitor.
 
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