[dbeck]

I purchased a Mitsubishi HC6500 a week ago and I've been thrilled with how it performs.


However, I've been doing a lot of reading since then and it seems that 3D is really taking off this year. Most of what I've read seems to indicate that a 120hz projector will be required for 3D movies.


I don't want to find myself 6 months from now wishing I'd bought a different PJ. What are your thoughts? Is it worth thinking about a 120hz PJ and returning my HC6500?

 

[jpniner]



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Originally Posted by dbeck /forum/post/15481707


I purchased a Mitsubishi HC6500 a week ago and I've been thrilled with how it performs.


However, I've been doing a lot of reading since then and it seems that 3D is really taking off this year. Most of what I've read seems to indicate that a 120hz projector will be required for 3D movies.


I don't want to find myself 6 months from now wishing I'd bought a different PJ. What are your thoughts? Is it worth thinking about a 120hz PJ and returning my HC6500?

wait it out, when the bulb burns or if you time it just before, sell your current projector on ebay and buy one that is 3D compatible then. unless you have money to blow.


I managed to use an Infocus IN72 for a year and a half, then bought a Sharp DT-510 for a net cost difference of $150 bucks after selling the IN72 and buying the Sharp. Had I bought the Sharp instead of the IN72 a year and half ago it would've cost me a ton more and I'd likely be either bulb or pj shopping right now.

 

[georgeorwell]

I can't tell you for how many years I've been reading that 3D is taking off this year. I would wait for it to truly take off before making that decision.

 

[imjay]

It could be another 3D false alarm BUT this time I don't think so.


Why? Hundreds of commercial theaters have already converted some or all screen to digital with 3D capability and hundreds to thousands more are scheduled to do the same.


Maybe of more significance, the motion picture industry has made a firm commitment to 3D and promise a LOT of new 3D content being introduced in 2009.


Most all new models of tv displays either already on store shelves or on the way will be 3D ready.


While the variety of 3D ready projectors on the market is smaller an exec at XpanD told me that in 2009 there will be many consumer priced projectors that are 3D ready.


Does that mean everyone should feel their pj is obsolete in "flat land" and run out to upgrade? Maybe so but my personal opinion is probably not yet.


Why? As with every giant step in visual entertainment (and flat to multi-dimensional is a GIANT step) it takes a while for everyone to settle on a particular type/standard of technology to support.


Some commercial theater systems require "smart" viewer glasses that must be sterilized for reuse. Other schemes allow cheaper single use glasses that viewers take with them or throw away.


Following close behind are even different methods that promise that no glasses will be needed at all.


Same is true for home 3D systems - Do you buy a unit that requires 120hz display or projector and uses RF wireless complicated shutter glasses or wait for something else.


Personally, I have been wishing for 3D for decades and I believe it has finally arrived BUT I am an optimist and I believe that before long image processors will be developed that will do a good job of transcoding existing 2D into passable 3D and so as badly as I want 3D for my home HD tv and projector I think the smart money is on taking a deep breath and keeping a close watch on the evolution of the emerging technology - Remember the confusion of the video cassette recorder/player technology before the U.S. standard of VHS emerged as the winner??

 

[reconlabtech]



Quote:
Originally Posted by dbeck /forum/post/15481707


I purchased a Mitsubishi HC6500 a week ago and I've been thrilled with how it performs.


However, I've been doing a lot of reading since then and it seems that 3D is really taking off this year. Most of what I've read seems to indicate that a 120hz projector will be required for 3D movies.


I don't want to find myself 6 months from now wishing I'd bought a different PJ. What are your thoughts? Is it worth thinking about a 120hz PJ and returning my HC6500?

How many movies are available in 3D? Five?


I'd wait and put some hours of enjoyment on your new PJ.

 

[jpniner]

3D could mean alot for Video games as well.


I say in 2009, if its on the way it gets slowed down by the economy and punts it to be more a 2010 thing.


I agree its also better to wait a little bit to let everything get sorted out before jumping in.

 

[quantumstate]

There are several technologies right now, and none of them are very good. It'll be many years before this is real.

 

[georgeorwell]



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Originally Posted by imjay /forum/post/15484839


Most all new models of tv displays either already on store shelves or on the way will be 3D ready.

I think you mean "some" instead of "most".


I'm with you though.....I demo-ed some I-O shutter equipment years ago, including the nu-view camcorder adapter and 2D/3D converter. Lots of potential in this field. Heck, were even just had some cheap thrills watching some scenes from Polar Express and Journey to the Center of the Earth in the old red/blue 3D on our projector......notice I said "some scenes" because I can't stand that for more than about 10 minutes.

 

[GregK]



Quote:
Originally Posted by dbeck /forum/post/15481707


I purchased a Mitsubishi HC6500 a week ago and I've been thrilled with how it performs.


However, I've been doing a lot of reading since then and it seems that 3D is really taking off this year. Most of what I've read seems to indicate that a 120hz projector will be required for 3D movies.


I don't want to find myself 6 months from now wishing I'd bought a different PJ. What are your thoughts? Is it worth thinking about a 120hz PJ and returning my HC6500?

It IS a tough call. I'm in the same boat. When it comes to rear projection and flat panel displays, there are affordable options out there (as in 120hz flicker free 3-D for use with shutter glasses). ..But when it comes to front projection 120hz 3-D capable sets that are priced under 6K...? None at this time. Let's keep the fingers crossed for a CES announcement. If not, the next official announcement could happen in September.

 

[DaGamePimp]

Theaters are going 3D in order to offer something that most people cannot get at home , it's just another marketing tool to get people back to the theater , widespread 3D will more than likely not happen this year considering the economy .

Besides that of the movies that are available in 3D most of them are horrible movies with so-so 3D .


- Jason

 

[quantumstate]

DGP, your picture always reminds me of a picture I saw on Ogrish, where a guy had been thoroughly chopped to pieces by a train. His disembodied head was sitting between the rails, looking very much like your picture! (eh, no offense)

 

[d james]



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Originally Posted by quantumstate /forum/post/15489277


DGP, your picture always reminds me of a picture I saw on Ogrish, where a guy had been thoroughly chopped to pieces by a train. His disembodied head was sitting between the rails, looking very much like your picture! (eh, no offense)

Hey I remember that picture, your right it is similar

 

[kciaccio]

I know there are some new 3d computer monitors gaining some traction in the market. Maybe this is the year for 3d. I was consideing a new computer monitor with 3d for games. It seemed cool at Frys.

 

[DaGamePimp]



Quote:
Originally Posted by quantumstate /forum/post/15489277


DGP, your picture always reminds me of a picture I saw on Ogrish, where a guy had been thoroughly chopped to pieces by a train. His disembodied head was sitting between the rails, looking very much like your picture! (eh, no offense)

Well way OT here ... I don't know what is more disturbing , that you think I look like a dead guy or that people actually look at that kind of stuff

.


Back OT ... Maybe if you guys saw me in 3D you would not think I look like that poor train guy .


- Jason

 

[dbeck]

I had to leave town right after I posted the topic. Boy, what a bummer to have a new PJ and a day or two later have to leave town. I'm back now. Its movie night tonight! We decided on Lord of the Rings.

What I had read (which admittedly hasn't been a lot) is that 3D would work with most any 120hz DLP projector. The images were split with 60hz for each eye. Even so, I can see where the technology may change before a standard is decided upon. I'll stick with my HC6500 for now.


3D seems to be hot for 2009. There were some articles in recent HT/AV magazines mentioning that manufacturers are committed to 3D this year.

 

[vsv]

 ViewSonic is one of the many companies displaying this week at CES. But they are the first ones to announce that they are displaying a 3D projector. The PJD6220-3D features 2200 ANSI lumens, a 2000:1 contrast ratio, and XGA (1024 x 768) resolution. This model is one of the first 3D projectors that are designed specifically for home theaters. The PJD6220 uses DLP display technology with BrilliantColor to provide stunning vibrant colors. In addition, the projector has an integrated 10 watt audio system and provides a blur-free 3D experience. “The DLP chip is the best option to deliver superior 3D as it has the fastest response rate of any available imaging technology for producing blur-free images at an unprecedented rate,” said Doug Darrow, brand and marketing manager of Texas Instruments DLP. “We’re excited to have ViewSonic as one of the first projection manufacturers to bring the third dimension from the movie theater to the living room.” The PJD6220-3D will be available in February for the suggested retail price of $1499, but you can see it this weekend at CES in the Bellagio Ballroom 6 as part of ViewSonic’s new FuHzion series.

 

[GregK]

Thanks for the update, vsv!


The price point on the ViewSonic IS excellent. Indeed.. the first 120hz front projector under 2K! The biggest pause for me is the resolution limitations of the ViewSonic 6220-3D. It's a native 4x3 chip at 768x1024. Which means if you run standard 16x9 720p through it and maintain a 16x9 ratio, the effective rez will roughly be 576x1024.


I may go for the 1080p Infocus X10 and try my 3-D movies at 85hz, as many of the previous Infocus models have tested good (in 3-D) at that refresh rate.


Greg

 

[TrickMcKaha]

If interested, I made comments from viewing the BCS championship game in 3D last week.


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1107293

 

[BlackBourne]

I'd wait myself. But then again I'm not a fan of having to wear 3-d glasses, that seems ultra lame. I'd rather just wait it out until something more standard comes along.

 

[The_Nephilim1]

Well 3d is comming on strong the only thing is the LACK of 3D Movies in a Field Sequential format..


DepthQ makes a 720P 3D Projector about $6000MSRP USD. But there are also a few 3D DLP HDTVs out there, here is the list:


HLT4675S Samsung 46'' Slim 720p DLP HDTV

HLT5075S Samsung 50" Slim 720p DLP HDTV

HLT5675S Samsung 56" Slim 720p DLP HDTV

HLT5076S Samsung 50" UltraSlim 1080p DLP

HLT5087S Samsung 50" Slim 1080p DLP HDTV

HLT5089S Samsung 50" Slim 1080p DLP HDTV

HLT5676S Samsung 56" UltraSlim 1080p DLP

HLT5687S Samsung 56" Slim 1080p DLP HDTV

HLT5689S Samsung 56" Slim 1080p DLP HDTV

HLT6176S Samsung 61" UltraSlim 1080p DLP

HLT6187S Samsung 61" Slim 1080p DLP HDTV

HLT6189S Samsung 61" Slim 1080p DLP HDTV

HLT7288W Samsung 72" slim depth DLP® HDTV

Mitsubishi model WD57833 – Diamond 57" DLP

Mitsubishi model WD65833 - Diamond 65” DLP

Mitsubishi model WD73833 – Diamond 73” DLP



I would like to get the DepthQ Projector as there are some UnderGround 3D HDFS Movies to be had..I currently have a sharp XR10XL DLP Projector that is capable of doing 3D but the Rez it the limiting factor now at 1024x768 I mostly Game with it but I also watch a Few movies in 3D..

Until they Release Some Official 3D HDFS Movies 3D is gonna die out?? I mean who is gonna spend all that money for Hardware when there is NO Software??