[kirkblitz]

I was just curious on if this has happened to anyone else.


About 3 years back i purchased a 32 inch Westinghouse LCD. Everything was good with that tv until about 3 months back and a Line appeared in the tv, almost like there was smugged dirt inside the tv from top to bottom. I called bestbuy(who had the warranty and where i bought it) they sent out a guy and he told me my screen was failing and so they replaced it with a 42 inch LG lcd(yay!).


Now here's where it gets odd


2 years back i bought a 47 inch Westinghouse LCD it was a 1080p model LVM-47w1, within 1 year the screen had lines on both sides like a dirt smudge or something and i had it replaced( Westinghouse was kind enough to take 3 months on that).

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/4...d2f742.jpg?v=0


(the line looked like that almost but ran verticle on 2 sides of the tv)


The replacement tv failed within 6 months ( Thick white line and thick black line on left side and right side) crutchfield wouldn't honor their warranty because the first tv was replaced with Westinghouse while on manufacturing warranty so now i still have this tv and pixels are starting to die

So anyways before the first 47 inch failed i purchased a 42 inch version of that model for my back porch. Now get this it is failing like the one above did, same stuff but now it has 3 lines.



All of these tv's had Directv hd boxs hooked up as their primary source of video via hdmi (32 was dvi).


Is there any particular reason why all of my westinghouse tvs failed/failing? They were all in different rooms and the only single connection between them was the fact that had directv hooked up.

 

[BoilerJim]

They failed because they are Westinghouses. My son had a Westinghouse which did pretty much the same thing. Then he got smart and bought a good Samsung. When you buy a cheap TV (or cheap anything else), it just proves that you get what you pay for. Sorry for your experience.

 

[rahzel]

My brother and I are using a Westinghouse LTV32W1 as computer monitors (my bedroom TV as well), and we've had them for over 2 years now with no problems.

 

[ptsube]

My old electronics teacher used to say, "cheap is cheap, because it's cheap."


That's not to say you can't find good deals, but I'm sure you get my point.

 

[kirkblitz]

yeah the one thing was i actually read the reviews on this forum and electronic sites and they all got great reviews

O well im enjoying my new LG and will hopefully replace the westinghouses soon with other things, I just wish there was a 2 year trial period on TV's

 

[ramazur]



Quote:
Originally Posted by rahzel /forum/post/15454108


My brother and I are using a Westinghouse LTV32W1 as computer monitors (my bedroom TV as well), and we've had them for over 2 years now with no problems.

Posts 1 and 2 point to a pattern of failures one should consider in deciding if to buy a Westinghouse TV set. What conclusion can be drawn from your post?

 

[rahzel]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ramazur /forum/post/15454426


Posts 1 and 2 point to a pattern of failures one should consider in deciding if to buy a Westinghouse TV set. What conclusion can be drawn from your post?

WTH is your problem?


The first post, maybe. It's not like I'm a Westinghouse fan (the LTV32W1 is the only westinghouse I've ever owned, my main TV's have always been Samsung's) I'm just sharing my experience with Westinghouse. So shoot me.

 

[ramazur]



Quote:
Originally Posted by rahzel /forum/post/15456275


WTH is your problem?


The first post, maybe. It's not like I'm a Westinghouse fan (the LTV32W1 is the only westinghouse I've ever owned, my main TV's have always been Samsung's) I'm just sharing my experience with Westinghouse. So shoot me.

I resolved to be nice this year so I asked a simple question without being snide or sarcastic or passing judgement and you are talking about murder. Again, the original post can serve as a warning. The second poster confirmed the validity of the first post. These two posts offer a valuable information and a warning to a propective buyer.


Was it your intent to tell us that the Westinghouse products are fine because your experience has been positive? If not, what do you think can be inferred from your post regarding Westinghouse products?

 

[dsh1998]

My old 42" Westinghouse (LVM42W2) developed a similar problem to what the OP described. It started out as slight but tolerable vertical banding:

https://flic.kr/p/3168296296 ​

https://flic.kr/p/3167464425 ​

But after a year and a half it developed vertical streaks where the bands began: a thin one the left side about 5 inches from the edge, another thin one directly in the middle, and then a wider one about 5 inches from the right edge. The right side streak was particularly bad and was about an inch wide at the top and then tappered down to same thinness as the other two at the bottom.

https://flic.kr/p/3167465829 ​

https://flic.kr/p/3168296992 ​

https://flic.kr/p/3167465167 ​

I too read a ton of reviews and did a lot of research before I bought it, and it did have great reviews as well.


I've now moved on to a Samsung LN46A650, and couldn't be happier with it (no backlight issues at all). In fact, vertical banding doesn't seem to be an issue at all with Samsung or Sony TV's, so it seems like they use a different backlighting technique than what the Westy used (I know nothing of the technical details). A lot of Samsung and Sony owners report issues with clouding or flashlighting (fortunately, mine has neither), but it seems like those are less serious/distracting than vertical banding....

 

[NorthernPhoenix]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ptsube /forum/post/15454182


My old electronics teacher used to say, "cheap is cheap, because it's cheap."


That's not to say you can't find good deals, but I'm sure you get my point.

Yeah, except $500 for ain't cheap. We're not talking about the days when buying a cheap CRT for $150, compared to $500-$1000 TVs would give crappy results...no kidding, if it's too good to be true, then it probably is as they say. I agree.


But to expect people to fork out $500, $600 or even more, and then when the thing breaks down to be told they didn't spend enough money isn't right. I'd agree with all this talk if people like the OP, or myself were buying 32 inch LCDs for $250 and then complaining when they crap out after a couple years, but $400, and $500 ain't chump change. No matter how you slice it, people are getting ripped off, taken for a ride by the whole flat panel craze.


We all know a $500 TV isn't going to be "as good" as a $2000 TV, but in the real world, 95% of people do not own $2000 TVs and frankly do not care if their TV is a perfect match to the film's original print. They just want something that shows decent, and that they can enjoy.


Most people would never think of spending that much money on a TV....


Everyone on a budget knows their "inexpensive" $400-$500 set isn't going to win any contests or blow people's socks off...but the darn thing should work for many years. And buying name brands doesn't promise quality either...I bought 2 Sharps, both were utter crap. Yeah, they weren't "Aquos"....so what? Not only do we have to buy name brands but we have to buy specific models otherwise they're crap too? And then some of THOSE are utter crap as well? (banding)


When people 40 years ago bought a chevy they knew it wasn't a Cadillac but the darn thing would run. That's how most people see inexpensive and off brand TVs....it might only be a chevy, or even a honda and not a caddy, but I can live with that as long as I can watch it, enjoy it, and it doesn't have some major defect. So can most people.


I realize videophiles cannot live with that, I know, I used to be one, had a 60 inch RPTV Pioneer, checked calibration once a month with VE, and all the other stuff videophiles do....


My RPTV died after 12 years....and I didn't feel like I got ripped off. Got my money's worth, no regrets......but I also have RCA's CRTs that still run after 10, and 19 years....both were "cheapy" models of the RCA line.....but the trend of people buying flat panels for twice the money you could have bought a CRT just 3 years ago and them being defective out of the box like mine, or dying after a few months or a couple years like the OP is totally uncalled for.


If Westinghouse is such a crappy brand then why isn't there more written in reviews about how crappy they are? Same goes for all the companies. The whole crap shoot thing when it comes to LCDs is getting out of control IMO. It seems the only company that doesn't have some sort of crap shoot going on is Panasonic. Is everyone else really that bad? I don't know, but the whole thing really irks me terribly...as you can probably tell...lol!

 

[rahzel]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ramazur /forum/post/15456541


I resolved to be nice this year so I asked a simple question without being snide or sarcastic or passing judgement and you are talking about murder. Again, the original post can serve as a warning. The second poster confirmed the validity of the first post. These two posts offer a valuable information and a warning to a propective buyer.


Was it your intent to tell us that the Westinghouse products are fine because your experience has been positive? If not, what do you think can be inferred from your post regarding Westinghouse products?

This is an open discussion about Westinghouse. I gave my input on my experience with Westinghouse. Am I saying Westinghouse is a trusted brand? No, I'm not implying anything other than giving my 0.02 on the matter. Take it for what it's worth.

More importantly, how does your post contribute to this thread? Absolutely nothing, other than to potentially cause an argument. It's hard to sense sarcasm from reading text, and that's what I got from your post. At least my post has some relevance to this thread. To me, it sounded like you basically said, 'this discussion is about how crappy Westinghouse is, what does your experience with Westinghouse have anything to do with it.'

 

[Ranger 518]



Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernPhoenix /forum/post/15456713


When people 40 years ago bought a chevy they knew it wasn't a Cadillac but the darn thing would run.

And today a Chevy & Cadillac are the same junk...with different badges & trim.

 

[rahzel]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger 518 /forum/post/15457493


And today a Chevy & Cadillac are the same junk...with different badges & trim.

lol.

 

[gjb1952]

Why would anyone buy this junk. Westinghouse is on par with the likes of an Element or maybe Dynex.

 

[Asheik15]

i have bought 3 lcd's within the last three years and 2 where Westinghouse, the other was a sony xbr4.. i have never had a problem with with the Westinghouse whereas i had to get the xbr4 replaced 6 times within one year and eventually just got it replaced with the xbr6....i think the OP just got unlucky, just like i did with the sony....my cousin on the other hand got the xbr4 and did not have one problem with it... in my opinion Westinhouse is still a good brand.

 

[rahzel]

Watch out... ramazur will get on your case about posting your single experience with Westinghouse and ask what conclusions can be drawn from your post.

In all seriousness though, I agree. Westinghouse has put out some decent TV's. I certainly wouldn't put them in the same league as Dynex. I would put them slightly behind brands like Olevia. Westinghouse may not be the most reliable brand, but fact of the matter is, all brands have their problems.

 

[ramazur]



Quote:
Originally Posted by rahzel /forum/post/15457354


This is an open discussion about Westinghouse. I gave my input on my experience with Westinghouse. Am I saying Westinghouse is a trusted brand? No, I'm not implying anything other than giving my 0.02 on the matter. Take it for what it's worth.
More importantly, how does your post contribute to this thread? Absolutely nothing, other than to potentially cause an argument. It's hard to sense sarcasm from reading text, and that's what I got from your post. At least my post has some relevance to this thread. To me, it sounded like you basically said, 'this discussion is about how crappy Westinghouse is, what does your experience with Westinghouse have anything to do with it.'

I will be happy to answer your question. The first two posts meant: be suspicious of Westighouse. Simple and unambigious. Your post sends the opposite message. That is confusing to those who may be planning to buy. To them is comes down to a black-and-white decision: am I going to buy or not? After reading the first two posts, most would decide not to buy. How does your post help anyone decide?


In reporting events, there is a general rule to report exceptions. The fact that my house did not burned down today is not worth reporting. That my three Samsung LCDs did not fail yet is not news. However, if all three failed within, say, first three months of operation that would be a statistical oddity worth reporting at AVS. Can you appreciate the consequences to this forum if all of us started reporting that nothing happened and everything is just fine?

 

[rahzel]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ramazur /forum/post/15458092


I will be happy to answer your question. The first two posts meant: be suspicious of Westighouse. Simple and unambigious. Your post sends the opposite message. That is confusing to those who may be planning to buy. To them is comes down to a black-and-white decision: am I going to buy or not? After reading the first two posts, most would decide not to buy. How does your post help anyone decide?


In reporting events, there is a general rule to report exceptions. The fact that my house did not burned down today is not worth reporting. That my three Samsung LCDs did not fail yet is not news. However, if all three failed within, say, first three months of operation that would be a statistical oddity worth reporting at AVS. Can you appreciate the consequences to this forum if all of us started reporting that nothing happened and everything is just fine?

Since when is it an oddity for someone to post their experiences of a certain brand, in a thread where the purpose is to discuss the reliability of that particular brand? If this was just a thread about Westinghouse TV's in general, and out of no where, I posted that my Westinghouse TV is working with no problems, then I would agree with you. But whats wrong with posting my experience with Westinghouse in a thread discussing the reliability of Westinghouse TV's? As you can see, others are doing the same. I found your post totally unnecessary and I don't like how you singled me out saying my post had no place here, when in fact it has complete relevance to thread.

Again, all brands have their issues. People post their issues in threads all the time, and it's completely normal for people to post their positive experiences to counteract, which is why I found your post totally unnecessary.

 

[boswd]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ramazur /forum/post/15458092


I will be happy to answer your question. The first two posts meant: be suspicious of Westighouse. Simple and unambigious. Your post sends the opposite message. That is confusing to those who may be planning to buy. To them is comes down to a black-and-white decision: am I going to buy or not? After reading the first two posts, most would decide not to buy. How does your post help anyone decide?


In reporting events, there is a general rule to report exceptions. The fact that my house did not burned down today is not worth reporting. That my three Samsung LCDs did not fail yet is not news. However, if all three failed within, say, first three months of operation that would be a statistical oddity worth reporting at AVS. Can you appreciate the consequences to this forum if all of us started reporting that nothing happened and everything is just fine?

Now what if two people in a row posted very positive reviews of a Westinghouse but a third chimed in to say he had a bad experience, would the same rules apply to the third who chimed in?


I agree with the poster a few post back. These are such fragile animals as compared to the CRT's. You can look all over this board and you'll see people posting problems with their Samsungs, Sony's etc. So, if two people post probems with a Samsung 750 series does that mean people should take fair warning about buying a Samsung ?


It is funny the double standards on here, if someone posted problems with a Samsung, people all come together try and help and have the whole just replace it and you'll be fine. Now if someone post's a problem with a Westiinghouse or whatever, it's same old thing "you bought cheap and you got cheap".


You can't be a part of this forum and tell me you haven't seen multiple people post problems with any model, whether it's a Samsung, Sony, Sharp, Dynex or Westinghouse. No make or model has gone untouched without someone having problems. This is true

 

[ramazur]



Quote:
Originally Posted by rahzel /forum/post/15458571


...I don't like how you singled me out saying my post had no place here...

I didn't single you out. You just happened to be the first one who said everything was a OK, as it should. I still didn't get an answer to my original question as to the conclusions that a reasonable person can draw from your "mine is fine" post?