4k tv's own scalers with 1080p x1/ps4

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jb82

Discussion Starter · Mar 3, 2014

I'm wondering if non-native gaming sources will look better or worse with 4k tv's since usually a picture does not look as good when its displayed on a screen that is not the same resolution as the game. Now I know xbox 360 games looked good on my samsung plasma at 1080p but the 360 had its own upscaler to help, but 1080 to 4k is questionable bc we dont know if x1/ps4 will have an upscaler and even more its a huge jump with more pixels to fill in. Vizio's P series is supposed to have this gpu dual core chip to do scaling with, do you guys think ps4/x1 games will look great with a tv like this using the tv's own scaler or not?

Another thing is I plan on playing Wii U in Wii mode on this Vizio ( planning on buying the 50 in. P series). And the wii U wii mode does not have its own scaler, what will these wii games on the wii U look like on a 4k set?

The only thing I know is if the scaler is great in the tv it might look pretty good, please give me your thoughts on this?

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Bob7145

· #2 · Apr 3, 2014

Scalers cause Input Lag. The screen lags behind your control inputs so you will mistime jumping or shooting or turning etc. However the 37" and 50" Seiki 4K sets I hear are becoming very popular among PC gamers because:

1) they are inexpensive 2) they do [email protected] [37" needs help] 3) It's a 4K TV!

I have no personal experience but am reading reviews on PC sites.

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Waywardson5013

· #3 · Apr 28, 2014

I just recently held a gaming tournament using the sony 65xbr900a and samsung 65f9000. Both using Xbox one playing call of duty ghost, the up scaling was pretty good but not earth shattering. The xbr900 had no noticeable input lag where the samsung was horrendous. I am not one who usually complains about input lag, but it was bad. The new 2014 H series from samsung I haven't tried yet but will soon be doing so. Hopefully they have fixed this issue.

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jb82

Discussion Starter · #4 · May 19, 2014

Yeah but the thing is I am pretty sure the Seiki has horrible 1080p scaling. And the new console are 1080p so that is a big problem.

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jb82

Discussion Starter · #5 · May 19, 2014

I have a 650 series plasma from 2008 or 09 50in. and I do not notice any input lag.

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newfmp3

· #6 · May 26, 2014

Lag seems to differ from one model to another. it's not a "brand" thing or even a LCD or Plasma thing. Some TV's that you would think are lag free, just aren't. Plasma's are usually better, but again, there are plenty of models that suck.

So bottom line, do ya research! and do it carefully. Some TV's get firmware updates that fix lag, so you'll see posts here saying the TV sucks when the TV does just fine. It is tricky.

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Defiantfrogs

· #7 · Jun 26, 2014

Bob7145 said:
Scalers cause Input Lag. The screen lags behind your control inputs so you will mistime jumping or shooting or turning etc. However the 37" and 50" Seiki 4K sets I hear are becoming very popular among PC gamers because:
1) they are inexpensive 2) they do [email protected] [37" needs help] 3) It's a 4K TV!

I have no personal experience but am reading reviews on PC sites.

I can confirm the Seiki has a HORRIBLE up scaler, bought one at microcenter for my ps4 and there was noticeable artifacting with any on screen movement. Looked beautiful when hooked up to native 4k content from my PC, but couldn't handle the 30hz so took it back the next day.

Panel was quite impressive tho.

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foodmeanoff

· #8 · Jun 29, 2014

yeah,The xbr900 had no noticeable input lag where the samsung was horrendous. I am not one who usually complains about input lag, but it was bad. The new 2014 H series from samsung I haven't tried yet but will soon be doing so. Hopefully they have fixed this issue.thanks

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