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"Today at CES, Sony announced five new high definition camcordersfour in the hard disk drive (HDD) category and one in the flash memory category. The four new HDD camcorders are the HDR-XR520, the HDR-XR500, the HDR-XR200, and the HDR-XR100. Sony's new high definition flash camcorder will be the HDR-CX100. All five new models will record in full 1920 x 1080 in the AVCHD format."



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thanks for the link!


so much info is missing... what bitrate, what zoom on the top of the line camcorders, etc... but i guess that we'll see it sooner or later.
 

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These are the much hyped 'green magic marker' sensors, in which the back side electronics are anodized in black to reduce reflected light from bouncing around. Remember those block diagrams that were all the rage? I'll believe when I see it.


The only feature of interest is the gps tagging, at least there will be no contention in a firefight where the war is raging.
 

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Originally Posted by osv /forum/post/15490468


thanks for the link!


so much info is missing... what bitrate, what zoom on the top of the line camcorders, etc... but i guess that we'll see it sooner or later.

Camcorders




Sony HDR-XR520V 240GB High-Definition Hard Disk Drive Handycam® Camcorder


Available in March for about $1500


Full 1920x1080 high-definition video recording and 12-megapixel still image capture

Large capacity 240GB hard drive holds up to 101 hours of HD video (LP mode)

New back-illuminated Exmor R™ CMOS sensor improves sensitivity in low light conditions

Photo and video geo-tagging using built-in GPS receiver and NAVTEQ® digital maps

Improved Optical Steady Shot with Active Mode stabilization for smooth video and photos

Smile Shutter™ automatically takes photos when subject smiles, even while shooting HD video

Face detection technology recognizes up to eight faces and automatically corrects focus, exposure and color control



Sony HDR-XR500V 120GB High-Definition Hard Disk Drive Handycam® Camcorder


Available in March for about $1300


Full 1920x1080 high-definition video recording and 12-megapixel still image capture

Large capacity 120GB hard drive holds up to 46 hours of HD video (LP mode)

New back-illuminated Exmor R™ CMOS sensor improves sensitivity in low light conditions

Improved Optical Steady Shot with Active Mode stabilization for smooth video and photos

Smile Shutter™ automatically takes photos when subject smiles, even while shooting HD video

Face detection technology recognizes up to eight faces and automatically corrects focus, exposure and color control



Sony HDR-XR200V 120GB High-Definition Hard Disk Drive Handycam® Camcorder


Available in March for about $1000


Full 1920x1080 high-definition video recording and 4-megapixel still image capture

Large capacity 120GB hard drive holds up to 46 hours of HD video (LP mode)

Photo and video geo-tagging using built-in GPS receiver and NAVTEG® digital maps

Improved Optical Steady Shot with Active Mode stabilization for smooth video and photos

Smile Shutter™ automatically takes photos when subject smiles, even while shooting HD video

Face detection technology recognizes up to eight faces and automatically corrects focus, exposure and color control

15x optical Carl Zeiss® Vaio-Sonnar® T* zoom lens



Sony HDR-XR100 80GB High-Definition Hard Disk Drive Handycam® Camcorder


Available in March for about $750


Full 1920x1080 high-definition video recording and 4-megapixel still image capture

Large capacity 80GB hard drive holds up to 30 hours of HD video (LP mode)

Improved Optical Steady Shot with Active Mode stabilization for smooth video and photos

Smile Shutter™ automatically takes photos when subject smiles, even while shooting HD video

Face detection technology recognizes up to eight faces and automatically corrects focus, exposure and color control

10x optical Carl Zeiss® Vario-Tessar® zoom lens

Records in Dolby® Digital 5.1 surround sound with built-in zoom microphone for clear recording of subjects



Sony DCR-SR87 80GB Hard Disk Drive Handycam® Camcorder


Available in February for about $500


Hybrid movie recording on Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media and built-in 80GB hard drive, which can hold up to 84 hours of video (LP mode)

1-megapixel CCD imager for excellent video and 1-megapixel photos

25x optical Carl Zeiss® Vaio-Tessar® zoom lens with Steady Shot® stabilization for smooth video and photos

Direct connection with DVDirect® Express DVD writer (sold separately) for easy memory archival and playback

Records in Dolby® Digital 5.1 surround sound with built-in zoom microphone for clear recording of subjects

2.7-inch wide, touch panel LCD screen



Sony DCR-SR67 80GB Hard Disk Drive Handycam® Camcorder


Available in February for about $450


Hybrid movie recording on Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media and built-in 80GB hard drive, which can hold up to 84 hours of video (LP mode)

60x optical Carl Zeiss® Vaio-Tessar® zoom lens with Steady Shot® stabilization for smooth video and photos

Direct connection with DVDirect® Express DVD writer (sold separately) for easy memory archival and playback

Records in Dolby® Digital 5.1 surround sound with built-in zoom microphone for clear recording of subjects

2.7-inch wide, touch panel LCD screen



Sony DCR-SR47 60GB Hard Disk Drive Handycam® Camcorder


Available in February for about $400


Hybrid movie recording on Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media and built-in 60GB hard drive, which can hold up to 41 hours of video (LP mode)

60x optical Carl Zeiss® Vaio-Tessar® zoom lens with Steady Shot® stabilization for smooth video and photos

Direct connection with DVDirect® Express DVD writer (sold separately) for easy memory archival and playback

2.7-inch wide, touch panel LCD screen

Available in three colors including red, blue and silver



Sony HDR-CX100 High-Definition Flash Memory Handycam® Camcorder


Available in March for about $600


Full 1920x1080 high-definition video recording and 4-megapixel still image capture

8GB embedded memory plus expandable storage capacity via Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media

Ultra-compact design in three colors including red, black and silver

Smile Shutter™ automatically takes photos when subject smiles, even while shooting HD video

Face detection technology recognizes up to eight faces and automatically corrects focus, exposure and color control

10x optical Carl Zeiss® Vaio-Tessar® zoom lens with Steady Shot® stabilization for smooth video and photos



Sony DCR-SX60 16GB Flash Memory Handycam® Camcorder


Available in March for about $370


Hybrid movie recording on Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media and 16GB embedded memory, which can hold up to 10 hours of video (LP mode)

60x optical Carl Zeiss® Vaio-Tessar® zoom lens with Steady Shot® stabilization for smooth video and photos

Direct connection with DVDirect® Express DVD writer (sold separately) for easy memory archival and playback

2.7-inch wide, touch panel LCD screen



Sony DCR-SX41 8GB Flash Memory Handycam® Camcorder


Available in March for about $300


Hybrid movie recording on Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media and 8GB embedded memory, which can hold up to 5 hours of video (LP mode)

60x optical Carl Zeiss® Vaio-Tessar® zoom lens

Direct connection with DVDirect® Express DVD writer (sold separately) for easy memory archival and playback

2.7-inch wide, touch panel LCD screen



Sony DCR-SX40 4GB Flash Memory Handycam® Camcorder


Available in March for about $270


Hybrid movie recording on Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media and 4GB embedded memory

60x optical Carl Zeiss® Vaio-Tessar® zoom lens

Direct connection with DVDirect® Express DVD writer (sold separately) for easy memory archival and playback

2.7-inch wide, touch panel LCD screen

Available in color variations including red, blue and silver



Sony DCR-DVD850 DVD Handycam® Camcorder


Available in February for about $430


“Hybrid Plus” recording on three separate media including 16GB of internal memory (more than 10 hours of video in LP mode), Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media and 3-inch DVD disc

60x optical Carl Zeiss® Vaio-Tessar® zoom lens with Steady Shot® stabilization for smooth video and photos

2.7-inch wide, touch panel LCD screen

Records in Dolby® Digital 5.1 surround sound with built-in zoom microphone for clear recording of subjects



Sony DCR-DVD650 DVD Handycam® Camcorder


Available in February for about $300


Hybrid movie recording options on Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media and 3-inch DVD disc

60x optical Carl Zeiss® Vaio-Tessar® zoom lens

Steady Shot® stabilization for smooth video and photos

2.7-inch wide, touch panel LCD screen



Sony MHS-CM1 Webbie HD MP4 Camera


Available now for about $200


Captures high-definition MPEG-4 video and 5-megapixel photos for easy transfer to the computer

Optical 5x zoom lens gets you close to the action without sacrificing picture quality

Equipped with PMB Portable software for quick content upload to popular video and photo sharing websites

Slim horizontal body with 2.5-inch LCD screen that swivels up to 270 degrees

Expandable storage capacity via Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media

Available in three fashionable colors including eggplant, orange and silver



Sony MHS-PM1 Webbie HD MP4 Camera


Available in April for about $170


Captures high-definition MPEG-4 video and 5-megapixel photos for easy transfer to the computer

Vertical 4-ounce body slips easily into a pocket or purse so it can be taken anywhere

Equipped with PMB Portable software for quick content upload to popular video and photo sharing websites

Rotating swivel lens instantly powers device and makes it easy to self-record

Expandable storage capacity via Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media

Available in three fashionable colors including eggplant, orange and silver
 

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so much info is missing... what bitrate,
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Originally Posted by rbouch8828 /forum/post/15490750


Camcorders....

Where did you get the info/does it mention bitrate?
 

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Originally Posted by TRaymond /forum/post/15492289


Crap...so does this mean I need to return my SR12?


TRaymond

I don't know about that.
I felt the same way at first, but these new Sony's aren't scheduled to come out until March. I am already hooked on either the SR12 or HG21 so, I will need a camcorder before March. I guess when these become available, I will wait a few months for the price to drop and then try one.




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Originally Posted by negitoro7 /forum/post/15492330


Still no progressive modes?

i dont even see 24Mbps either....
 

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Originally Posted by MomEngineer /forum/post/15492361


I don't know about that.
I felt the same way at first, but these new Sony's aren't scheduled to come out until March. I am already hooked on either the SR12 or HG21 so, I will need a camcorder before March. I guess when these become available, I will wait a few months for the price to drop and then try one.




Regards,

Pam

Same here
- I need a HD cam for a trip coming up in April, the Sony prices are not going to fall fast enough for me to grab one by that time... SR11 it is for me for now
 

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Hey TR...Unless these new camcorders are significant upgrades, I'm sittin' pretty with my SR11. But, shoot...I've only had it for 3 weeks now and camcorders are all new to me. I've been a photographer for a while (Nikon equipment), but camcorders are somethin' else


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Smile Shutter automatically takes photos when subject smiles

Now that's why I'm talking about!!!!
*snap*


I wonder if it can be programmed to take photos on a number of different faces...Please set Auto-Snap to capture photo on:


1) Smile

2) Frown

3) Grumpy Face

4) Rolleyes

5) Blushing

6) Giving you the Bird

...
 

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i dont even see 24Mbps either....

Per Camcorderinfo.org the 24mbps on the Canon HF11 did not improve the picture quality compared to the HF10's 17mbps. There is so much more to it than bitrate.


Having said that I still want to see it use the 24mbps ceiling of AVCHD.


I am either getting a new Sony with the new sensor or the Canon, which ever one is better in the reviews when they come out.
 

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i dont even see 24Mbps either....

Is it just me or is anyone else amazed that Sony missed the boat on this one. I mean do they just not have the technology to process this fast? Amazing. Canon is in to their 2nd year on this and Sony hasn't begun.


The 24mbps does improve fine detail when moving IMO.
 

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Extra bit-rate will not show more detail, it will show less compression artifacts. AVCHD doesn't tend to show any compression artifacts at 16mbs. The real story is in the backlit CMOS sensor. I would love to see if this makes a difference. It is interesting that it has ditched the Carl Zeiss and gone back to a Sony-made lens.
 

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Originally Posted by Chevypower /forum/post/15500944


Extra bit-rate will not show more detail, it will show less compression artifacts. AVCHD doesn't tend to show any compression artifacts at 16mbs. The real story is in the backlit CMOS sensor. I would love to see if this makes a difference. It is interesting that it has ditched the Carl Zeiss and gone back to a Sony-made lens.

I am new to AVCHD, but I am not new to technology - so bare with me.



If 24mbps doesn't show more detail than 16mbps, then why would anyone still be using HDV (mini-dv) at 25mbps (this seems to be the standard everyone is reaching to achieve). Also, it would seem to me that for fast motion a higher bit rate would (and should) make a difference.



Regards,

Pam
 
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