I was about to pull the trigger on the 511($2300), I liked the built in tuner. But it doesn't seem to have many favorable reviews in here (also not a fan of NO dvi). I am now thinking that the Toshiba 57h83 ($2000) might be a better option. I could buy a ota set top off ebay with the savings. I will be viewing alot of SD (until Charter gets their heads out of the sand) hopfully a lot of hd some dvd's and ps2. Any opinions????