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I watched this blu-ray and The Last Emperor and this black and white sixty year old movie gave me a more satisfying experience. Both are worthy upgrade from DVD of course but the Third Man has no annoying EE applied. There is still dirt and dust visible on the transfer. For now this is the best they can do.


One thing I have an issue and I think this is a legitimate complain and that is the cardboard packaging and sleeves. Using this kind of flimsy packaging is not going to be popular among buyers and collectors. They get damaged so easily that ordering them online and hoping your mailman does not shove your Criterion blu-ray in your mailbox is a crapshoot.


Criterion please don't get cheap on us. I have about 120 CC DVDs and all of them are still in pristine condition. Still well preserved and packagings intact. Still collectible. Those standard Blu-ray cases are the best way to go. Or a steelbook
 

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Blu-ray File size: 25.30 GB


Bitrate: 30.48 mbps


Code:
Code:
Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      AVC     1:45:13 27,234,594,816  43,303,650,449  34.51   30.48   LPCM 1.0 768Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)           DD AC3 1.0 192Kbps


DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     THIRD_MAN
Disc Size:      43,303,650,449 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.1

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Size:                   27,234,594,816 bytes
Length:                 1:45:13 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:          34.51 Mbps
Description:            

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        30481 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      English         768 kbps        1.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 16-bit
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        1.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        1.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        1.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         63.266 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:45:13.348     27,234,594,816  34,510          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:05:35.877     25,274 kbps     36,294 kbps     00:03:23.703    35,124 kbps     00:03:20.325    34,220 kbps     00:03:17.780    131,748 bytes   391,430 bytes   00:00:01.876    
2               0:05:35.877     0:02:33.111     31,148 kbps     37,274 kbps     00:05:57.899    36,193 kbps     00:07:53.806    35,752 kbps     00:07:12.098    162,394 bytes   251,966 bytes   00:07:13.015    
3               0:08:08.988     0:02:33.611     30,695 kbps     36,477 kbps     00:10:32.673    35,954 kbps     00:10:30.171    34,933 kbps     00:09:42.748    160,030 bytes   214,688 bytes   00:10:42.266    
4               0:10:42.600     0:04:11.834     32,958 kbps     37,231 kbps     00:12:55.816    36,349 kbps     00:12:51.812    36,216 kbps     00:12:46.766    171,829 bytes   213,701 bytes   00:14:26.866    
5               0:14:54.435     0:03:27.582     33,089 kbps     36,495 kbps     00:15:17.499    36,235 kbps     00:15:05.195    35,939 kbps     00:15:03.193    172,510 bytes   218,407 bytes   00:16:16.684    
6               0:18:22.017     0:04:23.429     35,425 kbps     37,093 kbps     00:19:34.548    36,295 kbps     00:20:31.855    36,201 kbps     00:21:41.008    184,691 bytes   213,948 bytes   00:20:40.489    
7               0:22:45.447     0:04:58.631     31,420 kbps     37,715 kbps     00:27:42.661    36,251 kbps     00:23:18.522    36,148 kbps     00:23:14.684    163,809 bytes   219,262 bytes   00:25:16.723    
8               0:27:44.079     0:05:01.843     35,955 kbps     37,469 kbps     00:32:38.206    36,385 kbps     00:30:53.059    36,249 kbps     00:30:31.871    187,450 bytes   232,434 bytes   00:28:32.168    
9               0:32:45.922     0:04:37.485     35,722 kbps     37,489 kbps     00:33:39.392    36,349 kbps     00:34:58.513    36,232 kbps     00:34:53.466    186,239 bytes   228,144 bytes   00:36:02.201    
10              0:37:23.407     0:06:08.367     35,197 kbps     37,187 kbps     00:42:49.984    36,362 kbps     00:40:39.103    36,250 kbps     00:41:17.433    183,499 bytes   223,008 bytes   00:38:32.935    
11              0:43:31.775     0:03:20.408     33,188 kbps     37,086 kbps     00:43:35.029    36,084 kbps     00:43:31.775    35,502 kbps     00:43:31.775    173,027 bytes   217,211 bytes   00:43:35.613    
12              0:46:52.184     0:04:15.338     26,042 kbps     31,806 kbps     00:50:24.896    29,661 kbps     00:48:32.284    28,900 kbps     00:49:53.991    135,771 bytes   190,625 bytes   00:50:25.272    
13              0:51:07.522     0:04:39.654     28,665 kbps     36,577 kbps     00:52:24.349    34,612 kbps     00:54:00.445    32,762 kbps     00:53:01.511    149,447 bytes   215,180 bytes   00:53:44.971    
14              0:55:47.177     0:03:50.104     28,069 kbps     36,996 kbps     00:57:23.064    36,168 kbps     00:58:23.208    34,445 kbps     00:57:17.350    146,338 bytes   216,002 bytes   00:57:23.606    
15              0:59:37.282     0:05:42.508     29,950 kbps     36,267 kbps     01:01:13.378    35,301 kbps     01:00:49.228    34,883 kbps     01:00:46.225    156,146 bytes   208,420 bytes   01:01:14.128    
16              1:05:19.790     0:02:22.433     26,378 kbps     32,635 kbps     01:07:19.827    31,553 kbps     01:07:16.949    30,583 kbps     01:07:16.407    137,520 bytes   205,927 bytes   01:07:20.161    
17              1:07:42.224     0:02:47.417     26,537 kbps     33,969 kbps     01:07:47.146    33,136 kbps     01:07:44.935    32,573 kbps     01:07:45.436    138,351 bytes   201,561 bytes   01:08:58.759    
18              1:10:29.642     0:04:30.436     27,770 kbps     36,929 kbps     01:13:28.362    34,865 kbps     01:13:26.944    33,921 kbps     01:13:26.944    144,780 bytes   204,945 bytes   01:13:29.029    
19              1:15:00.078     0:08:18.289     30,837 kbps     38,548 kbps     01:17:03.994    36,293 kbps     01:16:21.577    36,221 kbps     01:16:21.577    160,768 bytes   235,009 bytes   01:17:04.286    
20              1:23:18.368     0:06:45.738     32,103 kbps     37,754 kbps     01:29:33.493    36,250 kbps     01:28:55.621    36,178 kbps     01:28:51.034    167,370 bytes   223,644 bytes   01:28:03.861    
21              1:30:04.107     0:04:00.907     28,032 kbps     36,571 kbps     01:32:08.356    36,146 kbps     01:32:05.520    34,427 kbps     01:33:16.757    146,146 bytes   221,419 bytes   01:32:03.851    
22              1:34:05.014     0:08:05.359     24,655 kbps     36,801 kbps     01:34:38.339    36,160 kbps     01:34:35.670    33,940 kbps     01:34:34.835    128,540 bytes   239,590 bytes   01:39:43.018    
23              1:42:10.374     0:03:02.974     32,766 kbps     37,468 kbps     01:44:58.333    36,371 kbps     01:43:24.990    36,265 kbps     01:43:24.990    170,865 bytes   241,948 bytes   01:44:59.042    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6313.182                30,482                  24,054,609,437  130,819,897     
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x80            LPCM            eng (English)           6313.182                1,542                   1,217,213,880   7,576,020       
00000.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6313.182                192                     151,521,024     986,465         
00000.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6313.182                224                     176,774,528     986,465         
00000.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6313.182                224                     176,774,528     986,465         
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6313.182                63                      49,927,157      280,003
 

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I can't believe how good the DVD looks. Yes, the Blu-ray is superior but not by a landslide.
 

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The BD looks much more natural and film-like though; you can see how the DVD encode stuggles with handling film grain. The image takes on a bit of a video look - although still good for DVD. However, the BD looks like pure film.
 

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The BD looks much more natural and film-like though; you can see how the DVD encode stuggles with handling film grain. The image takes on a bit of a video look - although still good for DVD. However, the BD looks like pure film.

Exactly.


Now if we could get Carol Reed's other great film, Odd Man Out (which I believe is actually his better work) I'll be a very happy camper.
 

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I can't believe how good the DVD looks. Yes, the Blu-ray is superior but not by a landslide.

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What he said...
 

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The 2 DVDs either came from different sources or the 2 disk had a clean up as there is a scratch in the first that isn't in the second. I thought Criterion didn't double dip.
 

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Originally Posted by jvillain /forum/post/15526664


The 2 DVDs either came from different sources or the 2 disk had a clean up as there is a scratch in the first that isn't in the second. I thought Criterion didn't double dip.

They have done this quite a few times, Kurosowa, Salo, Brazil, just to name a few.
 

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The 2-disc DVD to me seems to have even more DNR than the original edition. The Blu-ray is a very nice improvement over both versions and I'm happy to see all the grain intact. Not sure I understand the comments that the blu-ray is not superior by a landslide, unless trolling.
 
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