[markm75]

I believe I'm on the path to upgrading my HTIB's receiver.. the system I have is an Onkyo HTS780. Its a receiver with only 5.1 analog inputs and spdif (trueHD related)...


I've been reading through the forum and found many threads to get me to this point...


From my understanding.. to get the full trueHD experience (and 7.1 discrete, once more titles have it).. You need a receiver with 8 analog (or 5.1 analog if you only care about the 6 channels) inputs or HDMI v1.1?


My goal is to be able to use all 8 channels once they are used on the HD-DVDs, so I started looking at receivers and came up with a view to pick from..


Is there any real difference in audio quality amongst the $700+ receivers (HDMI) out there and the ones that are only $400 or less.. I realize the more expensive ones probably have more inputs, etc..


Here are the one's I was considering (any of these equivalent/better in audio quality and will work with full TrueHD):


pricey units (all with full HDMI upconversion/trueHD/audio support, all around $750)

Denon 2807

Yamah V1700

Pioneer 82TXS


less pricey ($499-$350 in that order), (some dont pass HDMI audio, but I think all have 8 channel analog inputs?)

Onkyo TXSR674, with HDMI video upconversion

Onkyo TXSR604, audio via HDMI?, no video upconversion?

JVC RX-D412B; audio via HDMI?, Video upconversion

Pioneer VSX-1016TXV: video only via HDMI


My existing speakers are 8 ohm, 110watt, is there any reason why the new receiver should be 110watts or less?


Alot of these units do "upconversion" via HDMI (i think its just the hdmi).. Does this imply, if you are watching an SD station, it will upconvert the signal to 720p? (Dont most TV's /projectors do this on their own?), ie: Any advantages to having this ability in the receiver? ( I will have an upconverting dvd player, and eventually HD-DVD/dual format player).


I will use this with a Mits HD1000U...


I'm also assuming these are all HDCP compliant, meaning if I hook up my cable box and use the receiver as a passthrough, I will be able to view the picture?


Sorry for the mass questions.. but its organized

Thanks for any answers/advice...

 

[texonfire]



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Originally Posted by markm75 /forum/post/0


less pricey ($499-$350 in that order), (some dont pass HDMI audio, but I think all have 8 channel analog inputs?)

Onkyo TXSR674, with HDMI video upconversion

Onkyo TXSR604, audio via HDMI?, no video upconversion?

JVC RX-D412B; audio via HDMI?, Video upconversion

Pioneer VSX-1016TXV: video only via HDMI

What I have found out when shopping for receivers that in many cases in this price range a receiver that claims "video upconversion via HDMI" is only talking about the signal and not the quality (480p vs 720p) the video upconversion simply means that it will convert composite, svideo and component signals in their native resolution to HDMI out so you can have only one cable running to your projector.


Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Solace666]

You are correct. They just pass all the signals through HDMI so you only need one cable to TV.

 

[Stephen Hopkins]

The Denon 2807, Onkyo SR674, and Yamaha 1700 all convert analog signals to HDMI and deinterlace 480i signals to 480p. The 82TXs also scales video to 720p and 1080i.

 

[markm75]



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Originally Posted by Solace666 /forum/post/0


You are correct. They just pass all the signals through HDMI so you only need one cable to TV.

I've seen specs on some of my choices where it says it converts it to 720p.. is this same thing?


Do all of the HDMI receivers out there, take your svideo/component etc and push the signal out to a single HDMI output or is this only the ones stating upconversion as well...


Still a little confused on this

 

[markm75]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Hopkins /forum/post/0


The Denon 2807, Onkyo SR674, and Yamaha 1700 all convert analog signals to HDMI and deinterlace 480i signals to 480p. The 82TXs also scales video to 720p and 1080i.

Sorry, missed your reply before my last post..


Same question though.. if all HDMI receivers route the svideo/component/analog signals to the single HDMI output.. or this only if they upconversion (whether 480p or scaling to 720p etc)..


Thanks

 

[axs]



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Originally Posted by markm75 /forum/post/0


Same question though.. if all HDMI receivers route the svideo/component/analog signals to the single HDMI output.. or this only if they upconversion (whether 480p or scaling to 720p etc)..

The receivers with HDMI upconversion feature will output all those sources from HDMI out. They do not have to be upscaling (720p/1080i etc) to be able to output from HDMI out.

 

[markm75]

From what I had read, only v1.1 of HDMI is really needed, is this correct.. will it allow me to utilize TrueHD in any case? Is it also true that even if one of these receivers has HDMI and does do audio (not passthrough, video only).. its not a guarantee that it will do 7.1 TrueHD, of course I could just plug in audio into the 8 analog inputs, which I think all of them have and it should work.


Also, does anyone know if any of these units have lipsync compensation ability?


Basically my next receiver just needs to have TrueHD support, lipsync compensation, be around 110 watts per channel, and hopefully not be expensive but comparible to my HTS780 HTIB receiver, if not a bit better quality

**I'm not sold on the need to have upconversion or upscaling ability, as any Upscaling DVD or HDDVD will do this in itself, unless of course, this ability allows SD Cable stations to look even better on an HDTV (projector, mits HD1000U).


Cheers