Originally Posted by projectorreviews.com /forum/post/0
Epson Home Cinema 6500UB vs. JVC DLA-RS1 and RS2, RS10 and RS20
The JVC DLA-RS10 and RS20 haven't arrived yet, but they are similar to the current RS1 and RS2 projectors to give you an idea. The RS1, and the new RS10 are significantly more expensive, with the RS10 expected to sell in the $4000 - $5000 range, so figure about half again as expensive as the Epson. That's a big price difference, and will figure in to many peoples' decisions.
As I frequently mention, I own a DLA-RS1 (current version is the RS1x - which is almost identical, except for some additional color controls). I have run the RS1 side by side with the Epson Home Cinema 6500UB. This is how I see the differences:
The JVC DLA-RS1 has better black levels - JVC is simply the best in this regard. The only projector I've seen that can beat the RS1, is the RS2. As good as the Epson Home Cinema 6500UB is, the JVC is visibly better.
The JVC is also more film like. The Epson isn't quite as bright in best mode, and handles a 110" screen about as well as the JVC handles a 128 inch screen. The lumen difference isn't as much as that size difference, so I'll attribute the remaining difference to those blacker blacks of the JVC. On the other hand, the JVC is only slightly brighter in brightest mode, thus no match for dealing with ambient light. I sure wish my RS1 had the roughly double the lumens of the Epson, when I'm watching sports with some ambient light. The JVC RS2 is only average in best mode brightness, a step down from the RS1 and well below the Epson. The difference between the RS2 and the Epson in brightest mode is even more significant.
All of these JVC projectors, and the Epson, have great placement flexibility. The JVC's have a little less lens shift range, however, that slight difference is not likely to matter for the vast majority of potential owners.
The JVC RS1 and RS2 (and we presume the newer models as well) is a natural - very film like, and their color accuracy, extremely good. Sharpness of the Epson 6500UB is a bit better than the JVC RS1 and RS2, both of which are "average" for 1080p projectors.
The images below are from side by side viewing. In all cases, the Epson is on the left, the JVC RS1 on the right In all cases, the RS1 is slightly brighter:
Originally Posted by Zip3kx07 /forum/post/15565941
If you import one. A few members have imported a VW80 from Australia for around 4K.
Originally Posted by pottscb /forum/post/15566203
Seriously? The JVC RS-10 streets for under $4K and has 30K+ native contrast, 1000 D65 calibrated lumens and cleans up in all departments (except perfectly accurate color points), I wasn't aware that the VW80 was $4K street?
Originally Posted by Ken Tripp /forum/post/15566346
At D65, 30k:1 and 1000 lumens?
Scroll down a bit for the HD350
Originally Posted by Zip3kx07 /forum/post/15566543
Cine4Home's numbers are from a pre-production HD350. These number will give you an Idea of what the RS10/HD350 can do but you shouldn't quote them because numbers can change from a pre-production unit to a production model.
Jason at AVS measured 16,000:1 contrast with a little over 900 lumen's with the manual iris open. He got 33,000:1 contrast with just under 400 lumen's with the iris closed all the way down. These were measured on a production RS10 and will give you a more accurate representation of what the RS10/HD350 can do.
Originally Posted by Ken Tripp /forum/post/15566659
But he didn't get 33k:1 and over 900 lumens at the same time which is why I referenced the Cine4Home data to show how you get either high on/off or high lumens but not both at the same time as was indicated in the previous post.
Originally Posted by Ken Tripp /forum/post/15567688
So we're in agreement then that to say "has 30K+ native contrast, 1000 D65 calibrated lumens" is in fact misleading at best.