[Reden]

I had a nice chat with the ReplayTV Operations Manager @ DNNA and was asked to post some clarifications.


You can't be more authoritative than that (well, I guess you can if you got it direct not through me)

• The shutdown was not a contract negotiation ploy with anyone.
• The shutdown was not forced by the FCC.
• The revival was to *HELP CUSTOMERS* and give them more time for other solutions.
• DNNA has no plans to make the machines blow up
• DNNA has no plans to re-lock the machines (change keys, etc)
• DNNA has is working on plans to start charging for monthlies.
• DNNA may change monthly unit activation status to monthly at that time
• DNNA will not charge any CC's on file w/o permission
• DNNA will remove the current nag message in a few weeks (not October)
• DNNA is fine with people moving to WiRNS/SD or Perc/LaHo... even encourages it!

DNNA staff does read the forums and finds some of the theories creative and funny.

Some may feel corporations are evil, but in reality they are run by people just like you and me. Yes, some people are jerks, but that's true in everything. I've have numerous discussions and find the people involved to be intelligent, honest, and *CARING* people.


Feel free to wordsmith the comments above. They are paraphrased anyway.

If you try and read anything into them based on word order or typos, you're spending more time on it than the author.


We were given a gift of continued guide service. Let's be thankful and enjoy it


Robert

 

[unclebubby]

So, if I switch both of my replaytv units over to WiRNS/SD will I need to keep paying DNNA when they restart monthly billing?

 

[KenL]

... best intentions and all...


What's more important is what isn't mentioned.


*clarifications* is code for more spin. And of course there's the "spin" of the "spin" on top of that.


If it smells like a duck it sure ain't a cow.


(we'll enjoy the gift with the realization that's not the whole story if even half of it)

 

[mlloyd]



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Originally Posted by unclebubby /forum/post/20775785


So, if I switch both of my replaytv units over to WiRNS/SD will I need to keep paying DNNA when they restart monthly billing?

Paying DNNA for what?

 

[Reden]



Quote:
Originally Posted by unclebubby /forum/post/20775785


So, if I switch both of my replaytv units over to WiRNS/SD will I need to keep paying DNNA when they restart monthly billing?

Nope.

 

[sbwinter2]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Reden /forum/post/20775678


I had a nice chat with the ReplayTV Operations Manager @ DNNA and was asked to post some clarifications.


We were given a gift of continued guide service. Let's be thankful and enjoy it


Robert

Thank you, Robert. It is too bad that what they actually give to their reps to share with us is completely confusing to them and to us. If they could just be honest and straightforward with their reps, and in turn, with us, then we might feel more confident (maybe). If you speak with them soon again, maybe you could ask if they could better inform their reps so what we learn and then share here isn't just entertaining, but also accurate.


I am thankful that you have a direct way to communicate and get better information. Did they happen to mention what types of changes they ARE required or going to make? I would all rather that they don't do anything (other than what is needed for the monthlys).

 

[eagan]

"The revival was to *HELP CUSTOMERS* and give them more time for other solutions."


Give us more time?- How much more time before they decide to shut it down again?

 

[Darkside]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Reden /forum/post/20775815


Nope.

Really? Are you saying that DNNA has no plan to "deactivate" the monthly units?

 

[Reden]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkside /forum/post/20775938


Really? Are you saying that DNNA has no plan to "deactivate" the monthly units?

Yup.. go to WiRNS, LaHo... whatever.. they wish you well.

 

[notyoung]

I wonder how much they will charge for monthlies, that's what I have. Maybe they will make it competitive with LaHo.

 

[SoNic67]

Thanks for updates. It's good that they won't charge the CC without consent (I was expecting that anyway).

Yep, even if I had a "lifetime" unit with them, I have no bad feelings toward them - they released the keys, that's more than MOST of the corporations out there would do!


Their hardware is a piece of technical marvel if people are still using it now. Sure, it is SD only, but who cares? Most of the shows that I record (at highest quality) are looking good enough to me.

If they would come up with a HD device that supports access cards I would go back to them in a second.

 

[ClearToLand]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Reden /forum/post/20775678


I had a nice chat with the ReplayTV Operations Manager @ DNNA and was asked to post some clarifications...

• ...
• The revival was to *HELP CUSTOMERS* and give them more time for other solutions.
• DNNA has no plans to make the machines blow up
• DNNA has no plans to re-lock the machines (change keys, etc)
• DNNA has is working on plans to start charging for monthlies.
• DNNA may change monthly unit activation status to monthly at that time
• ...
• DNNA is fine with people moving to WiRNS/SD or Perc/LaHo... even encourages it!

DNNA staff does read the forums and finds some of the theories creative and funny.

...I've have numerous discussions and find the people involved to be intelligent, honest, and *CARING* people...

DNNA Staff,

THANK YOU for providing the 'Trigger(s)' that inspired / allowed our resident ReplayTV Gurus to create MULTIPLE solutions that will allow us 'Diehards' to continue to enjoy our wonderful ReplayTVs for as long as possible.

[Thanks Cindy!

]

 

[Nobe32]

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoNic67 I have no bad feelings toward them - they released the keys, that's more than MOST of the corporations out there would do!.

I agree. I always thought they were acting in good faith after this happened.

As I see it the non-networked Replay users benfit the most from continued EPG service.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SoNic67 Their hardware is a pice of technical marvel if people are still using it now. Sure, it is SD only, but who cares? Most of the shows that I record (at highest quality) are looking good enough to me. If they would come up with a HD device that supports access cards I would go back to them in a second.

Yeah if you're like me with failing eyesight any definition is good.

The biggest advantage of true HD is the aspect ratio. I can't stand to watch

4:3 streched like silly putty.

 

[spartangage]

Did you find out why they were planning to shutdown the service (besides to save money). I don't think it has anything to do with digital since my ReplayTV works just fine with my Comcast DTA, it even has the correct Motorola IR code factory installed.


How long do they plan to keep the service up, do they have a new date for shutdown planned?

 

[adam1991]

do I hear even the newbie grasping the concept that the other shoe has yet to drop...?

 

[brobin]

A sincere Mahalo (thank you) from Hawaii to DNNA for keeping the guide running, releasing the keys and sharing information with us through Robert and this forum.

Aloha Nui Loa!

 

[hotco]

If you DNNA folks really read this, know that I usually fret for months (sometimes years) over a component purchase, but my Replay was a quick and easy decision. It is easily my most used a/v component by a long shot. I wore out my first remote and am on my second. I make iPad worshipers blush at their comparatively low level of enthusiasm. I was so depressed about the shut down and am so elated that it did not happen. THANK YOU DNNA !

 

[speck9]

Thank you Robert for getting official info. The conspiracy theories were getting out of hand and now we can put them to rest once and for all.


Had a feeling this change was something we can take as positive and glad to see they're fine with people taking advantage of the LaHo option.


Thanks again DNNA for continued service of my lifetime replaytv!

 

[eagan]

I think the real reason they continued the service is pressure from Panasonic. Panasonic is a $100 billion corporation. They probably spend more on paper clips than it would cost to continue the service. They probably are subsidizing the continuance to maintain goodwill with their customers.

 

[adam1991]



Quote:
he biggest shock to me is that DNNA had/has a dedicated replaytv operations manager...if they were shutting down the service why pay an operations manager all these years since the last update years ago what exactly were they overseeing?

Does no one here know how car sales works?


"Hey, Bill, can you be the internet manager? I've got a hot one."


Do you see where this is going? "Hey, who wants to be the Replay operations manager? Some nutcase is on the phone."