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Well I’ve read and read and then read some more in this forum and I still cannot determine what, if anything, I am working with here.

By no means am I after anything extravagant but I would like to do my due diligence and try for a quality end product.

Reading through the many builds and informative articles I cannot help but think that much of the information is contradictory. So I ultimately turned to Amazon and ‘home theater design’ books and while hesitating I thought it would be worthwhile to post a cry for help here before ordering. A book cannot offer feedback. Initial feedback is what I most need st this point. If it is not apparent, this hardcore theater design is new to me.

I understand many of the elementary basics of electronics but you all have blown me away with the depths I have discovered.

Anyway, here it is... My three week old son and his shipmates want to be able to watch TOPGUN II in my, I mean his, ‘movie theater’ sometime next year.

Project budget (sound equipment) 5k

I’d like to isolate sound as much as possible.

We moved in a about a year ago - pardon the disarray -just moved and three week old- and it’s a uniquely laid out basement that has a storm shelter within a storm shelters and 8’6 ceilings. I have no idea what they were planning but they clearly had some sort of TV set up down there but it doesn’t look ideal.

We just had a dumpster delivered and plan to clear everything out over the next few days and I’ll starting building in the winter.

Problem is I cannot figure how/if I can make something respectable out of it or not. I can frame bare concrete walls or even drill through solid concrete walls to hide all av equipment but the space is just sort of awkward. I’ve attached a sort of generic blueprint of the dimensions- they do differ by a few feet but are close for what I’m after. Can this work?

Barn serves as gym at this point. If this is a lost cause then I now have a gym in the basement.

Apologizes for the ramble, just trying to offer as much info as possible for anyone who cares to share ideas.




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Do I have it right that that is 3 storage spaces?


And that you are planning to have but three seats?

It also appears the way the ceiling is framed, is eating up some room height. The support beam could be skimmed with drywall with but 3/8" clearance and it looks like some 2x2" has been added to the floor joists.
 

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I’d like to have as many seats as I can comfortably fit. I was thinking of raised seats in the back row/s.

Trouble is I’m not sure how to orient the whole thing. I’m going to take some more measurements and the advice of Barry and draw a basic layout to see what is optimal/logical.

To answer your question, yes there are three separate ‘rooms’. One being main basement area, double doors to ‘shelter 1’, and single another door to ‘shelter 2’. Safe, but I’m not exactly sure what the previous homeowners were planning with it.




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Looks like that worked after some back and forth...

Basically I’ll have 16’3 to the edge of the stairs with the length being about 24’.

Center dropped ceiling may be an issue with viewing angles.

And the only reason I posted information on the shelter is because I could drill a whole in the wall and use it as an av closet of sorts. Maximize space in sitting room.

I’ll have to revisit recommenced seating dimensions/distances to see what works.

I appreciate the thoughts.


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You could ladder frame the rectangle, and gain 2" of headroom there. Your room size isn't a problem for two rows of four seats on the narrow side of things.
The depth should allow for the use of an acoustically transparent screen and wall up front, if so desired. Your screen size is very realistic for the room's height.


The shelter can potentially host the av rack if so desired. The control of gear is what counts, unless you are the type that wants to see electronic displays. I simply went with
planting it near the entry (although I was wondering about the stairs appearing to be different as drawn, versus the photos). Much of what I went for, orientation-wise, was
to have symmetrical side walls, keep the windows at the back of the room, and to host the rack close to the entry, while placing the highest part of the space, over the second
row.

It's a solid space to work with.
 

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Very cool. Thank you for the input. The stair dimensions are approximate at this point - I took one measurement from far wall to where stairs begin as this will be the amount of space to work with. There is a book on the other side of the stairs that may also be a place for gear but I like your idea of keeping things close.

It’ll be a while but I now have some food for thought.


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The nook would be fine to use, and might even be preferable. It comes down to how easy you can run some conduits for wiring over to the room, and the control of gear from a theater space.

That entire red area look to have great potential to save at least 1.5" of headroom, by removing the 2x2 from the bottom of the floor joists. The dropped section doesn't really need all those
supports running front to back, and they look to be eating up more then a few inches of head room. Some ladder framing could get you something to support drywall and improve the height in that area.

That might mean some fixtures and wires need to be moved up in the joist space, as well as some rework of the HVAC sheet metal to reflex the increased ceiling height.

I would even repurpose those 2x2's if they are nice and straight. Either as frames for fabric walls, or they might end up in the riser, or in the front wall.

This being posted in the media room section of AVS, means you might be leaning to a less formal space that has some performance disadvantages versus a dedicated space. Often things like the lack of reflective
symmetrical side walls and a defined room volume work against getting the most out of the audio side of gear. Is this going to be open concept or dedicated?
 

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Wait one.

I’m in the middle of my own trade war with my better half. Negotiations are ongoing.

I’d opt for a dedicated but she’s not wanting to partition the basement off like that.

Standby for calls of distress!


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This being posted in the media room section of AVS, means you might be leaning to a less formal space that has some performance disadvantages versus a dedicated space. Often things like the lack of reflective symmetrical side walls and a defined room volume work against getting the most out of the audio side of gear. Is this going to be open concept or dedicated?
I take "Media Room" to be multi-purpose as Music/Theater, and would call a Game/Theater Room more of a Family Room or Multi Purpose Room.
Because of careful set-up, my 2-Channel system throws a large multi dimensional sound stage with only 2 speakers being run, and I haven't heard similar 2-channel performance from dedicated Home Theaters. In my Media Room, though 2-Channel is still primary, I also have a screen and surround speakers for move enjoyment, and it's also a great place to read books and magazines, so I call it my Media Room.

Sorry if I took more offence than I should have, semantics :)


P.S. I just looked at a bunch of the threads in this section, and maybe it's just me :)
 

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I didn't see any offense taken, but it's all kind of open to all kinds of conversation to me... My personal dividing line is a more social space versus
a narrower focused space. The amount of speakers isn't much of an issue to me, beyond being properly laid out. In fact, I have my days where I think
a 2.2 system behind an AT screen, could be rather affordable and outright impressive.


My definite preference is a low noise floor. My wife's definite preference is soundproof. She appreciates quiet when she doesn't want to see the movie, and I
appreciate playing an action movie at reference levels. But the question was mostly aimed at the dividing wall, and sub-division of space and if that was a
possibility, or a trade war (as so put)?


I would expect a dedicated home theater that is acoustically treated for multichannel, would be at a disadvantage versus a 2 channel optimised setup.
One can simply use DPLIIx in such a space.
 
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