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It's been awhile since I had some quality time with a JVC projector.

I have a JVC X55R that I have been playing with and am in love with all aspects.

Especially the stunning black level and shadow detail-nothing I have seen even comes close.

It has a new lamp and after calibration on the high lamp setting I'm getting about 11ftl on my screen.

So I need a lot more light.


I've seen the DLA-RS4000 many years ago but if I recall correctly I was not impressed.

I also really don't want another xenon driven projector. You can see the $ fly out of the screen if you look closely.


I just had a Sony 600ES side by side with JVC-zips up flame suite- but I preferred the JVC.

I was also able to see the Sony 1000/1100 back to back against the 600 and thought it looked significantly better.

So maybe that's an option.

Though I have a hard time getting past the fact that they are only 8bit.


I think I'm aware of everything out there but figured I'd ask the collective.
 

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I think the only thing that comes close to the overall PQ of the JVCs and Sony 4K machines will be the Sim2 Lumis (and a couple other Sim2 products) but they are considerably more money than either the JVCs or Sony's. If you want high lumen and high contrast other than the Sony 4K machines the Sim2 models may be your only hope.
 

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Thanks forgot about Sim2

Haven't seen anything from them in a couple years maybe it's time to revisit.


In looking at the specs and it's using the same DLP DC 4 that I have now.

Also only has a single 350watt lamp and 3800 ANSI with the high contrast lens.

I bet it looks a lot like what I already have just not as bright.
 

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Which DC4 projector do you have now? The one thing the Sim2 models have is manually adjustable irises on top of dynamic irises. They start out extremely bright and you can tailor them to your screen size with the manual iris and then enable the dynamic iris to get far better contrast performance during the dark scenes.
 

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I have a DPI Titan Reference with the high contrast lens.

It does not have and iris so the Sim2 would be able to achieve better contrast at the loss of some light

I have not seen a DI that I like as I see them working.

Maybe this one is different, I'll see I can get a demo.
 

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That's good to hear about the X55. I have the RS4810 (identical to X55) and will have it up and running as well as pro calibrated next week. First projector.



Screen is a 108" wide 2:35:1 Da-Lite HD 1.1 gain. Walls and carpet black.
 

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I think the Sony 1100ES would probably be your best bet if you're comparing to a X55. That is last year's model so the contrast performance between the two won't be too drastic (this year's JVC's have considerably better contrast than last years). If you absolutely love the JVC though, is there an option for a different screen that would be more suitable for something like the JVC?? If I remember right you have a low gain weave.
 

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The closest thing I found was the Sony DCI projectors. 515 or the somewhat lower cost 510. Uses up to 6 bulbs. I think it 15k lumens @ 5500:1 CR. There are DLP options that claim up to that CR and up to (or better) brightness, but not at the same time. The Titan Reference changes over time, so not sure which one you have or what you paid, but when I checked sticker price the Sony was cheaper. Not sure I can justify spending that kind of money on a pj, but I still don't have my room done, so no decision for me yet.
 

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Originally Posted by rabident  /t/1524626/a-projector-with-jvc-black-levels-but-with-high-light-output-does-it-exist#post_24542601


The closest thing I found was the Sony DCI projectors. 515 or the somewhat lower cost 510. Uses up to 6 bulbs. I think it 15k lumens @ 5500:1 CR. There are DLP options that claim up to that CR and up to (or better) brightness, but not at the same time. The Titan Reference changes over time, so not sure which one you have or what you paid, but when I checked sticker price the Sony was cheaper. Not sure I can justify spending that kind of money on a pj, but I still don't have my room done, so no decision for me yet.

Looking around there is a 4 lamp model coming out SRX-510p http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/product/digital-cinema-digital-cinema-projectors/srx-r510p/overview

9,000 lum is a lot of light. Hopefully you would be able to select the number of lamps you want to use.

No that you mention it the guys from Sony said they may be bringing out a projector about the 1100.

Wonder if this will be it?
 

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Originally Posted by trans_lux  /t/1524626/a-projector-with-jvc-black-levels-but-with-high-light-output-does-it-exist#post_24543007


Looking around there is a 4 lamp model coming out SRX-510p http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/product/digital-cinema-digital-cinema-projectors/srx-r510p/overview

9,000 lum is a lot of light. Hopefully you would be able to select the number of lamps you want to use.

No that you mention it the guys from Sony said they may be bringing out a projector about the 1100.

Wonder if this will be it?

That's a commercial theatre projector....you could get 4 JVC's and do a stack/blend. To be adventurous, relocate the 4 globes to a sealed/cooled light box and use fibre optic bundles to pipe the light to each projector, even if the globes dim unequally the light reaching each projector would be identical....
 

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Could you just pair the JVC with a Dalite HP screen? I have and RS4910 with a Dalite HP 2.2 gain and love it. Star Wars looks fantastic!
 

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In all seriousness why not stack a couple JVC's?
 

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I think the Sony 1100ES would probably be your best bet if you're comparing to a X55. That is last year's model so the contrast performance between the two won't be too drastic (this year's JVC's have considerably better contrast than last years). If you absolutely love the JVC though, is there an option for a different screen that would be more suitable for something like the JVC?? If I remember right you have a low gain weave.

I'm really intrigued by the SRX-510p, seeing one might be a bit of a challenge but I do know someone in the pro division at Sony.

Though with the major shake-up going on who knows if he is still there.

I'll take another look at the Sony 1100ES and see what I can get out of it. IMHO the JVC produced a better overall image.


Yes I currently have a large 2:4 Screen Research woven screen with .89 gain. I need AT as my center speaker lives behind the center of the screen.

I have used Stewart microperf many times but have seen motion issues with fast pans that the woven do not produce.

Also think the woven materiel has better audio fidelity.

I unaware of any high gain woven screens.
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That's a commercial theatre projector....you could get 4 JVC's and do a stack/blend. To be adventurous, relocate the 4 globes to a sealed/cooled light box and use fibre optic bundles to pipe the light to each projector, even if the globes dim unequally the light reaching each projector would be identical....smile.gif

Ah stacking just like the old days...
 

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Originally Posted by trans_lux  /t/1524626/a-projector-with-jvc-black-levels-but-with-high-light-output-does-it-exist#post_24544615


I'm really intrigued by the SRX-510p, seeing one might be a bit of a challenge but I do know someone in the pro division at Sony.

Though with the major shake-up going on who knows if he is still there.

I'll take another look at the Sony 1100ES and see what I can get out of it. IMHO the JVC produced a better overall image.


Yes I currently have a large 2:4 Screen Research woven screen with .89 gain. I need AT as my center speaker lives behind the center of the screen.

I have used Stewart microperf many times but have seen motion issues with fast pans that the woven do not produce.

Also think the woven materiel has better audio fidelity.

I unaware of any high gain woven screens.

Ah stacking just like the old days...

Where are you located. I know someone who has one. BUT Sony is absolutely not interested in selling this to consumers. You better do a short term lease on a commercial theater and buy one for that. No dealers for consumers have been established. you have to go through regular commercial theater channels and be prepared to pay list price. from my trusted owner, it blows everything else away.
 

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Thanks sounds like all the dci folks. I get it, that's what they are focused on. Selling one to some shlub let me is not worth their time.

I'm going to check with the guys I know at sony and see what they know. Last time I spoke to them they did mention a projector above the 1100. Who knows what that is.
 

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There is one for about double the price. Basically it has a different mother board and has two,, if I remember correctly, display port inputs which can be used in tandem. Look at the Sony professional site.

B&H Photo has it listed as the VPL-GT100, I think that might be wrong and it should be the VPL-GT1000 .
 

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I have edge blended projectors before and have always been able to see the blend.

I'm going to wait and see what the 4k DLP looks like before I jump in-again..,
 

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