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Active Monitors - Help me make a blind decision

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hello, i'm looking into a pair of active monitors for my bedroom HTPC setup. i'm going to be purchasing them blind (without listening) and could use some advice. my requirements are just for the best value at hopefully no more then $1000. from extensive reading and research, i've narrowed the list down to the following.


Mackie HR624 & HR824

Event TR6, TR8, ASP6, ASP8

Yorkville YSM1P


as you can tell, the price range of these speakers runs the gammut from all the way down to $400/pair to all the way up to $1200/pair. i'm looking for value but am willing to spend more. they will be used for music, tv, movies. the basic kinda stuff. looking for good qualities like craftmanship, sound quality, non-fatiguing, immersive, etc. you get the point, just another joe looking for a good set of speakers. thanks for any advice towards the decision!
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I’ve heard nothing but good things about the Mackies. I’ve never heard of the others.


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Wayne A. Pflughaupt
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hello, i'm looking into a pair of active monitors for my bedroom HTPC setup. i'm going to be purchasing them blind (without listening) ...
Don't! Visit a store that has these monitors and listen first. Maybe there's a Sam Ash or a Guitar Center close by? Also, add the Dynaudio BM5A and the smaller Genelec 80xx speakers to your list. If the Adam A7s are in the stores I'd listen to those too. I've always wanted to hear those Heil drivers. But then again, you might be happy with the sound of the more inexpensive Alesis, Samson, KRK, and Fostex monitors.


You don't have to limit yourself to the active models if it's not a strict requirement. The passive models can sometimes sound just as good with a nice amp. The Adcom GFA-535_ and the Hafler Transnovas are cheap and good studio monitor amps. In many cases, this can be a more flexible solution.


Visit rec.audio.pro or gearslutz.com--there's a lot of discussion on those forums regarding studio monitors.
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Originally Posted by dano1122
hello, i'm looking into a pair of active monitors for my bedroom HTPC setup. i'm going to be purchasing them blind (without listening) and could use some advice. my requirements are just for the best value at hopefully no more then $1000. from extensive reading and research, i've narrowed the list down to the following.


Mackie HR624 & HR824

Event TR6, TR8, ASP6, ASP8

Yorkville YSM1P


as you can tell, the price range of these speakers runs the gammut from all the way down to $400/pair to all the way up to $1200/pair. i'm looking for value but am willing to spend more. they will be used for music, tv, movies. the basic kinda stuff. looking for good qualities like craftmanship, sound quality, non-fatiguing, immersive, etc. you get the point, just another joe looking for a good set of speakers. thanks for any advice towards the decision!
Mackie HR 824's by a mile. :D :D :D
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thanks for the replies. in my reading i've seen reports of the event asp8s sounding better then the hr824 by more than one person who has heard them side by side. i will try to make a trip out to guitar center sometime this weekend and see what i can audition. another plus with the events is they are made in america, which gives me a little more confidence as to build quality when dropping that much money.
I've had both the Mackie HR-624 and the Dynaudio BM5A, and I prefer the Dyns by a fair margin. I got deals on both of them, and could have kept either, FWIW. I used them primarily to mix music, but also watch movies on my PC with them.


From your list, I would compare the HR-624, the BM5A, and the ASP8. Concentrate on those, and definitely audition if you can.
My advice would also be to just go listen to 'm if you can. Your taste is probably different from my taste :) I listened to several active monitors at Guitar Center, and liked the Mackie 824s the best. To me, they sounded the most neutral. We played a track of somebody singing, and the voice just sounded most natural on the Mackies.
I'm also a fan of the Dynaudio's. The BM5A can be had for $1,000 which is within your budget.
Update:


Went to guitar center and auditioned the DM5A, Mackie HR824, Blue Sky 2.1's, and Event ASP8 and ASP6.


The DM5A had both tweeters pushed in or blown out. It sounded dark.


Mackie's were way too bright and just not my kind of sound.


Blue Sky 2.1 was suprisingly good for the price, and definetly a contender if you want to go with subwoofer setup. Was very impressed by these guys


Event ASP6 was good but not as "full" sounding as the ASP8. The ASP8 was the best sounding.



However, I bought two ASP8's and brough them home, hooked them up to my computer which has an Emu 0404 soundcard that outputs 1/4" to the 1/4" input of the ASP8. My room is not all that big and I've only had them playing for a dozen hours or so by now but I get the feeling these may be too "big sounding" and the tweeters can be a bit fatiguing for my room. I may end up returning them. I negotiated with the salesmen for no restocking fee. Argh.... this is frustrating.
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Hmmm. It sound like a problem with room acoustics. A larger monitor can sound boomier in a small, untreated room. If the ASP8's sounded good at the store, then you're hearing the difference between the rooms. What are your room's dimensions? The ASP6s might have been the better choice. But those go down pretty low too (-3 db @ 40 Hz, vs 35 Hz for the 8's if you believe in specs).


The ASP8 owner's manual doesn't have a section about how to deal with first reflection points. Comb filtering might be making the monitor sound more fatiguing.


On the back of the monitors are some trim controls. The ones at the store might not have been set to the flat position when you auditioned them. If the monitors are close to the wall you'll get more bass. Even more so if they're close to the corners. Tweaking the low frequency trim control might make it sound better. You could use the high frequency trim controls too if that helps. I would try to play with placement and acoustic treatments first before doing this. But that's just me. YMMV.


It's too bad the BM5A's had damaged tweeters. Of the models you auditioned, they're the only ones with tweeter guards!
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here we go gentlemen. review will be up soon. Event ASP8 v. Dynaudio BM5A
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I've got the mackie HR824's at work, but i have the Behringer Truth 2031's at home. I really do like the sound and ability of the Behringer speakers (They're just Mackie drivers that can't make the 37Hz QC)


Give them a good listen if possible. At $350 for a pair (powered) they're worth it.


Otherwise, find some JBL 4412's and a big power amp. :)
If your budget expands...


PMC
I would second the Genelec recommendation.
A little more expensive than others mentioned, but active Focal Solo 6 at $2K per pair list - discounting is available. These speakers have been talked about before, search this forum. To summarize the solo 6's have very similar components as Focal's passive $4K per pair version BE1007 (consumer line - recently very favorably reviewed in Stereophile - I believe reviewer mentioned he felt the speaker should cost significantly more for their sound quality). You can't go to Guitar Center or Sam Ash to listen to them, distribution is limited - speaker comes from France. But the US Distributor is very nice to deal with and can arrange (I believe) demo via shipment. I used to own Mackie 824's and really liked them, however, the Focals are a full notch up in terms of refinement / performance - but at a higher price.


Of the brands you mentioned at around $1K per pair price range, I liked the Mackies, and did not like the Events. Mackies had better mids but was a little bright. Events had weaker mids and bloated / sloppy bass. Have not listened to Dynaudio, but people I know and trust speak very highly of them.


Good Luck!


Rich B.
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i would recommend jbl lsr 6328's for your front channels and 6325's for your rears. the lsr's are excellent speakers and will go loud without a lot of volume compression.


the mackies 824's are good near field, but i don't think they work that well when you put some distance between you and them. i assume it is a matter of disperion characteristics. if you are going to be 6' to 10' back and want mackies, i would suggest the 626's.
I'm comparing the Emes Kobalt and the Focus Solo6.

I cant actually try them from where I live.

Any Feedback on either of these.

Thanks
I was extremely impressed by Genelecs and vote for them.
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here we go gentlemen. review will be up soon. Event ASP8 v. Dynaudio BM5A
Where's the review?
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