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Wipeout FURY was released on the 23rd of July,it was 8 hours late for those in the USA that wanted to download it compared to the rest of the world.


WHY?

It might have been to some underhanded motion by SONY USA,why single them out,well nobody else in the world had to suffer a advertisement appearing one week later for State Farm Insurance .


See this link
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/03/do...t-hd-with-ads/


Here is the press release from Double Fusion ,the company Responsible for this .
http://www.doublefusion.com/press/ht..._03_08_09.html


BY STEALTH !


Those in the USA [ the ONLY region to have suffered this so far] can take heart.


This very recent press release explains the situation in EUROPE.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/so...wipeout-advert


For those to lazy to read it.

European gamers will not tolerate insidious advertising.


Why don't you people in the USA complain?


Better do it before your swamped with it,or are you just all too complacent?
 

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If the article is correct in regards to the load times, that is a rather intrusive method of in-game advertising. Particularlly for a game like Wipeout HD, where speed is apart of the games ethos, so to speak.

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Why don't you people in the USA complain?


Better do it before your swamped with it,or are you just all too complacent?

I guess we're about as complacent about this as you are when it comes to the censorship and banning of games due to a limited ratings system that doesn't allow for anything above MA15+ (in AU terroritories).


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I make that last statement tongue-in-cheek, of course, to highlight the fault in making such broad generilizations (e.g. "are you just all too complacent").
 

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Why don't you people in the USA complain?


Better do it before your swamped with it,or are you just all too complacent?

Normally I would complain, but with our government heading down the road of socialism, I am finding there are currently more pressing issues to complain about...
 

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Normally I would complain, but with our government heading down the road of socialism, I am finding there are currently more pressing issues to complain about...

Well, can we define socialism?


We shouldn't paint with broad striped brush and catchwords, since a broad definition would put the US as a socialist state since the start of the 19th century. Social Democracy is the better term, but that would still be "socialist" from the current dialogue, and it was made that way from both sides of the isle.


Personally I'd wager we're returning to sane capitalism after a 30 year experiment with excessive greed, and a run away economy that had little use for long term planning for the future. I personally believe in capitalism as a means to happiness, which is why we use it as the best system we've found yet. Unfortunately, I think we've delved into a funk of money for moneys sake, not happiness.


But then again, this is a gaming forum.


If the Ad's are assertive (delaying load times), and not passive, then this really is something to get upset over. That said, if you buy it, you also buy into their way of delivering ads through their product. Speak with your money, pressure the developer, and petition your legislator.
 

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Originally Posted by blackwiggle /forum/post/16939839


Those in the USA [ the ONLY region to have suffered this so far] can take heart.


This very recent press release explains the situation in EUROPE.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/so...wipeout-advert

Wiggle, you're an alright dude, but what the **** are you talking about? If the USA is the only region getting the ad, and the story you linked to says the ad is being removed, what does that have to do with the situation in Europe?


Also, I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to generalize the US, or why you think nobody here has complained about the ads.

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For those to lazy to read it.

European gamers will not tolerate insidious advertising.

It seems like you're implying that the ad is pulled in Europe only due to complaints, but because US users haven't complained, the US version will still have the ad. The story you linked says nothing of the sort.
 

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Originally Posted by blackwiggle /forum/post/16939839


Wipeout FURY was released on the 23rd of July,it was 8 hours late for those in the USA that wanted to download it compared to the rest of the world.


WHY?

It might have been to some underhanded motion by SONY USA,why single them out,well nobody else in the world had to suffer a advertisement appearing one week later for State Farm Insurance .


See this link
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/03/do...t-hd-with-ads/


Here is the press release from Double Fusion ,the company Responsible for this .
http://www.doublefusion.com/press/ht..._03_08_09.html


BY STEALTH !


Those in the USA [ the ONLY region to have suffered this so far] can take heart.


This very recent press release explains the situation in EUROPE.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/so...wipeout-advert


For those to lazy to read it.

European gamers will not tolerate insidious advertising.


Why don't you people in the USA complain?


Better do it before your swamped with it,or are you just all too complacent?

Your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired.
 

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Also, Fury didn't arrive late to the US; it was listed in the Wipeout HD section of the store well before the 'official update' put it on the New Releases page.
 

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I didn't mean to generalize the USA,it's just that per capita ,you seem [too the rest of the world] to sit and take this [insert expletive] invasion.


VOX POPULI - Voice of the people


That's what I would like to seem regarding this.


People tend to sit on there couches and absorb their lives away.


Complacency has led to so much "Dumbing down" of all the things .


The "Meh" factor has become intrusive in a lot of day to day mannerisms that aren't immediately obvious unless looked at in retrospect.


How did we lose that? ..Answer - Because nobody bothered.
 

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I didn't mean to generalize the USA,it's just that per capita ,you seem [too the rest of the world] to sit and take this [insert expletive] invasion.


VOX POPULI - Voice of the people


That's what I would like to seem regarding this.


People tend to sit on there couches and absorb their lives away.


Complacency has led to so much "Dumbing down" of all the things .


The "Meh" factor has become intrusive in a lot of day to day mannerisms that aren't immediately obvious unless looked at in retrospect.


How did we lose that? ..Answer - Because nobody bothered.

What's that have to do with how you misconstrued this bit of news? And if the ad is already being taken down because of complaints, wouldn't that mean people weren't complacent?
 

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Originally Posted by blackwiggle /forum/post/16940295


I didn't mean to generalize the USA,it's just that per capita ,you seem [too the rest of the world] to sit and take this [insert expletive] invasion.


VOX POPULI - Voice of the people


That's what I would like to seem regarding this.


People tend to sit on there couches and absorb their lives away.


Complacency has led to so much "Dumbing down" of all the things .


The "Meh" factor has become intrusive in a lot of day to day mannerisms that aren't immediately obvious unless looked at in retrospect.


How did we lose that? ..Answer - Because nobody bothered.

You realize you just typed all that onto a video game forum right?


Because a few hardcore gamers (that's who mostly plays WipeoutHD) didn't jump up start a riot over some in game advertising, the USA as a whole is a bunch of lazy bums?


Honestly, when I saw the State Farm ad I thought, "So THAT'S how they charged just $9.99 for more game than was there in the first place!"


I agree there are a bunch of lazy bums that want everyone else (especially mommy government) to do everything for them at the expense of those that actually have an ounce of individual responsibility left, but come on.
 

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HELLO .


See it was SONY EUROPE that made the decision to "CAN" the advertisements.


NOT SONY USA that actually put them on your USA based consoles.

While the article doesn't explicitly say "Sony Europe", I supposed you could make the assumption that it was someone in Europe who made the decision to take them out, since the developer is SCE Studio Liverpool and the publisher is SCEE. But it was also probably their decision to make the deal with Double Fusion in the first place.


What exactly is your point anyway?
 

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HELLO .


See it was SONY EUROPE that made the decision to "CAN" the advertisements.


NOT SONY USA that actually put them on your USA based consoles.

You say this like it is obvious, and yet none of the articles you linked say this.


Looking for other articles on this news does confirm it was SCEE that pulled the ad, so you're right, but then there is also the fact that the game was developed by a European company and SCEE is the company that published the game, so naturally they would be the ones to decide to pull it. Your assumption that 'lazy Americans' don't care about ads still doesn't hold any water.


And your original comment about the Fury being delayed in the US to put the ad in continues to make no sense when Europe got the ad, too.


In any case, the ad is gone, so what was the point of this thread in the first place?
 

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Originally Posted by blackwiggle /forum/post/16940377


HELLO .


See it was SONY EUROPE that made the decision to "CAN" the advertisements.


NOT SONY USA that actually put them on your USA based consoles.

And it was an American user who made the comparative video showing the significant differences in load times. Maybe the video wasn't the direct cause for canning the ad, but it likely sparked some debate.
 

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I cant watch the video at work. Is the game broken because of the ad? Once it loads does it run fine? If so I dont see a problem with the ad as long as the cost of the game is being driven down due to it being there.
 

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Europe never got the AD.


That was the point I tried to make [obviously unsuccessful ]


The people in Europe and elsewhere ,once hearing about the dilemma that this AD had been causing to ONLY USA down loaders of FURY thought it a slight to you ,the USA Playstation FURY purchasers.


[Insert expletive of choice] that,just damm rude.


If you don't believe me please visit this thread at the wipeoutzone .

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6595


Note the date of 31st of July as the first post
 

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I love when "it's cool to be anti-American!" sneaks into AVS.


Well, take this, ya lousy Australians:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews
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Many American women may fantasize about foreign men, but the truth is, American men aren’t that bad – especially when compared to Australian men, according to a British study.


Dr. Almudena Sevilla-Sanz from Oxford University in London found that Australian men make the worst husbands and hate helping out around the house. U.S. and British men, on the other hand, don’t mind lending a hand when it comes to housework, the Australian Associated Press reported.


Sevilla-Sanz studied more than 13,000 men and women from 12 developed countries. American men were considered the best husbands, along with men from other “egalitarian” countries such as Norway, Sweden, England and Northern Ireland.

Australian men finished last.

The point is...send us your women (no fat chicks, though). Maybe they're all (notice how I generalize) too busy complaining about advertising and posting on message boards about Americans and their lack of complaining about advertising.


Or maybe we're just whipped.
 
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