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Hi all,


I need some advice. I have $5000 to spent on speakers for 7.1 or 7.2 HT. 100% Movies. The room is 30 by 15 no openings (except 1 Door of course) . I was looking to pair them with a Martaz 5008 but would except advice on the Receiver too if anyone would like to give me other options as I haven't bought that yet.


Any suggestions would be a big help.


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The Marantz 5008 would do well for a receiver. In a $5k budget, I would definitely do two subs. For subwoofers I would be looking at a pair of Hsu VTF15h or maybe a pair of the new Reaction BPS 215 which just came out. Those look like they could be very high value subs. If you can do just a little bit of assembly yourself, check out the Dayton RS1202k .


For speakers, if you don't need extraordinarily loud, I would be looking at Philharmonitors , KEF R100 s, Ascend Sierras , or Mackie HR824 mk2 s if you don't need something that looks fancy. I would use an identical speaker for the center speaker if at all possible, but if not, try to stay within the speaker series family. For bookshelf speakers, it is not crucial that you get a matching speaker, I would just get something neutral and capable. A good surround speaker is the JBL 8320 , it is inexpensive, high performing, THX certified, easy to mount, and an easy load for any AVR.
 

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I never heard of the Reaction BPS 215. Do you know of any reviews? I was looking at the ascend Sierras 2 for the RCL and the CBM-170 SE for the 4 surrounds but the JBL 8320 look interesting. Easy to mount.
 

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Reaction is a new company. It's always a risk dealing with a new business, but the owner has been open and very responsive on the Reaction thread , so I would be willing to give them a chance were I in the sub market. Or you could always go with an established brand like Hsu or SVS or whatever, they are good too, but the specs on the BPS 215 look killer. As for Sierra 2s, they would be very good, no doubt, and I think the CBMs would make good surround speakers as well. Note that none of the speakers I recommended including the Sierra 2s will give you that big Imax THX sound, if that is what you are looking for. You are going to need something with more than 6" bass drivers for that. If this is for a dedicated theater room, I would definitely go for a different type of speaker than these little bookshelf speakers.
 

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What about Klipsch Reference Series, they are suppose to be great for HT.
 

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Klipsch Reference would be good, they would be more powerful than the bookshelf speakers I mentioned. They may not have the detail or axial response of those bookshelfs, but they will have an edge in dynamic range. I would be looking at some RB-81s as far as Klipsch Reference goes. I would try to get one for the center speaker as well, or use a RC-62. If looks are not important, you might check out some KRK Rokit 10-3 s, those should have an edge in dynamic range as well. If you boost your budget up by about $1k, you can start think about getting some JTR, Pi, or JBL Pro speakers fr the front stage, which really will get you THX Reference performance in your room. For something inbetween the KRKs and Pi/JBL Pro, some people have used the QSC K speakers as fronts for dedicated home theater with purportedly good results. Supposedly even though they are live sound PA speakers, they have very good sound quality, so you might look into the advantages of using something like these QSC K12 s as fronts. That will give you some very serious dynamic range.
 

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If you really want to great sounding surround system that is mostly for theater use, and if you are willing to do the work, then the Seos kits are going to be your best bet. The Fusion-12 or Tux-1099 would best any of the Klipsch Reference, or Definitive Technology bipolar towers, or KRK's, Paradigm, ect...
 

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Originally Posted by shadyJ  /t/1522157/advice-needed-5000-to-spend#post_24473382


Reaction is a new company. It's always a risk dealing with a new business, but the owner has been open and very responsive on the Reaction thread , so I would be willing to give them a chance were I in the sub market. Or you could always go with an established brand like Hsu or SVS or whatever, they are good too, but the specs on the BPS 215 look killer. As for Sierra 2s, they would be very good, no doubt, and I think the CBMs would make good surround speakers as well. Note that none of the speakers I recommended including the Sierra 2s will give you that big Imax THX sound, if that is what you are looking for. You are going to need something with more than 6" bass drivers for that. If this is for a dedicated theater room, I would definitely go for a different type of speaker than these little bookshelf speakers.

The pro of going with Reaction is that they'll discount their prices initially to build up market share and the owners do seem, in their communications on the forum, to be good folks. The con is that there are no formal or informal reviews and its hard to gauge the long-term stability of the company. Of course, if no one bought from new companies, then no new companies would ever get off the ground. But I'm still a bit surprised at how much some folks have been pushing Reaction around here, and I wonder how many of those folks would actually take this gamble with their own home theater budgets. At a minimum, especially when advising newbies, I wish folks would caveat their recommendations a little more, since those recommendations are, for now, based on very, very little data.
 

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Originally Posted by shadyJ  /t/1522157/advice-needed-5000-to-spend#post_24473382


Reaction is a new company. It's always a risk dealing with a new business, but the owner has been open and very responsive on the Reaction thread , so I would be willing to give them a chance were I in the sub market. Or you could always go with an established brand like Hsu or SVS or whatever, they are good too, but the specs on the BPS 215 look killer. As for Sierra 2s, they would be very good, no doubt, and I think the CBMs would make good surround speakers as well. Note that none of the speakers I recommended including the Sierra 2s will give you that big Imax THX sound, if that is what you are looking for. You are going to need something with more than 6" bass drivers for that. If this is for a dedicated theater room, I would definitely go for a different type of speaker than these little bookshelf speakers.

Thanks for your input Shadyj

The big Imax THX sound is what I was looking for. How would the Sierra towers work. I was just checking out these configuration. I also started looking into the Klipsch Reference Series. Do you recommend any of the JBL in my price range. My budget is firm at $5000


Sierra Tower pair $1,898.00 $1,998.00


SRTC1 Sierra Horizon $998.00 $1,048.00


CBM-170 SE pair $348.00 $696.00


Rythmik LV12R Servo Sub, black oak $599.00 $1,198.00


Loudspeaker Package Discount: ($194.00)

Subwoofer Discount: ($119.80)

Total: $4,626.20
 

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Another to consider are JBL L820 L &R $349 a pair x3 @ B&HPhoto with free shipping, LC2 Center $400 @amazon with free shipping = $1450

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/407263-REG/JBL_L820_H_L820_Studio_L_Series.html/?m=Y&gclid=CIDluM_jjb0CFYhaMgodSiIA-g

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ICXVK6/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0VQ11P4FZVTPN03E6H5Q&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846

Not sure if these would fill my size room with enough sound.
 

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If you really want to great sounding surround system that is mostly for theater use, and if you are willing to do the work, then the Seos kits are going to be your best bet. The Fusion-12 or Tux-1099 would best any of the Klipsch Reference, or Definitive Technology bipolar towers, or KRK's, Paradigm, ect...


Looking very interesting but I really don't have the time to commit to such a project. Thank you for the suggestion.
 

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If you want a big Imax sound, I would not go with small bookshelf speakers with 6" woofers. The Sierras are unlikely to have that kind of dynamics. That package would not be what I would get for pursuing that kind of sound. If you don't need something that looks living-room-nice and really need to keep the budget under $5k for everything, check out a QSC K10 front stage. Very good sound quality for live audio speakers. The Sierras will give you a finer sound but they won't give you THX you-are-at-the-movies goose bumps. QSC Ks should be able to. A lot of pro-audio stores carry them and many will have them up for demo. I recommend you call up a pro audio store and ask them to set some up for you to demo, if you have a Guitar Center or something like that around you. Here is a suggestion for a less than $5k system that will get you a bigger than life THX sound:


3 x QSC K10 : $2250

4 x Hsu HB-1 bookshelf speakers for surrounds: $700

2 x Hsu VTF15h subwoofers : $2k.


That will sound nice and big. I think the JBL 8320 surrounds would be better, but they push the budget over $5k. The Hsu speakers are good though, nice big sound stage and relatively powerful while still pretty neutral. The nice thing about that setup is the QSC speakers are powered, so they won't tax your AVR at all. Just hook em up to the pre-outs. More power gets reserved for your surround speakers, and the receiver is kept cooler for a longer life-span. The subs are powerful, they are basically the best you can do for $2k without going DIY. To keep up with the QSCs, you would want to run those sub in two port mode, get as much dynamic range as possible. If you decide you want those subs and surround speakers, call up Hsu and ask them what kind of deal they will offer for that kind of package. If you get bookshelf speaker surrounds, you will probably need to mount them, and the best inexpensive wall mounts are Videosecu side-clamping mounts. They are clones of the highly regarded AM40 Pinpoint mounts but $20 cheaper. For speaker cable, I would just get a roll of 14 AWG cable from Home Depot; expensive speaker cable doesn't buy you better sound. For HDMI cable, get it from monoprice.com , and if you need banana plugs, get those at monoprice too. Ditto for wall plates, and any other accessories. Skip the monoprice speaker mounts though, they are awful.
 

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Thank you all for your input. This has been a big help.


ShadyJ

If I'm only using the AVR for the surrounds. Should I still go with the Marantz SR5008?


Also, the back of the QSCs looks like there are a lot of adjustments for someone like me.


What do you think of the JBL 3677 and JBL 8320 mentioned above.
 

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Yeah, the Marantz will be fine. What you are mostly buying it for are the electronics, not the amplifier. What's nice is it has a full set of pre-outs, so you can go with powered speakers for any of the channels.


The back of the QSCs is not all that complicated, you would only be using the RCA line-in plugs, so you don't have to worry about all those XLR ins and outs. Keep the 'LF' on 'normal', and the 'HF' on 'flat'. Turn the front LED off. Turn the gain knob to maybe 1/8 to 1/4 volume. That's all you need to do. Your receiver calibrates everything automatically. It's a piece of cake, and if you have any questions, call up QSC's tech support or you can come here and ask us. The guys in the DIY section would be more adept with that kind of speaker, so ask there.


As for the JBL 3677 and 8320, those would be more appropriate for what you are trying to so, but they would be more expensive, and swiftly fill up your $5k budget leaving not enough room for subwoofers. The system I quoted is a hard $5k budget system. To accommodate some 3677s, you would want to increase your budget by at least another $1k. Another thing, even though the subs I linked too are fairly powerful, the dynamic range on the 3677 would be well beyond these home audio subs, so I would allocate even more money for subs just to get something that can keep up with those speakers at all. Even the QSC speakers have dynamic range beyond the subs I mentioned, but it won't be as bad of a disparity as the 3677s.
 
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