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The only reason they use the mini-antennas is because of a quirk in copyright law. They could do just as well with one big antenna if it were not for the insanity of our current copyright laws. Laws, I might add, that were written by the lobbyists from the copyright cartels and rubber-stamped by 'our' representatives.


At least it is funny to see them hoist by their own petard here, but if they can't win in court they will just pay to have the law changed.
 

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I think they should pay the local broadcasters the retransmit fee if they are going to charge for this service.


There should also be a centralized way to view local tv from around the country, supported by advertisements. Radio has adopted this model and it is time for TV to do the same.
 

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It will get ugly very quickly when they started paying these local broadcasters. It is hard to define "local". Sometimes you get signal outside of an area. It is also hard to put a price tag on something that is unicasted to a specific customer since they can technically pull the broadcast off the air. The broadcasters are making money off the advertisements anyway.


The real deal, IMO, is in the gray area where a viewer is not anywhere near an area that can receive the broadcast. Which also happens to be something I am interested. I think it is as legal as putting a slingbox in someone's home to stream OTA elsewhere.
 

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Originally Posted by macks  /t/1466491/aereo-wins-lawsuit-with-broadcasters#post_23159130


I think they should pay the local broadcasters the retransmit fee if they are going to charge for this service.


There should also be a centralized way to view local tv from around the country, supported by advertisements. Radio has adopted this model and it is time for TV to do the same.

They are essentially being paid to house and maintain individual tuners for their users. The courts have already affirmed TV watcher's rights when it comes to recording, time/place shifting etc so really the only difference here is that you are outsourcing some of these functions. It just shows the sorry state of broadcast competition that none of them came up with the idea first.
 

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Assuming the price is good (not sure what they charge), this would be great for those that want to cut the cord, but can't put an antenna out. I live in the first floor of a condo. We're thinking of cutting the cord, but I'd like to use my HTPC to record OTA broadcasts still. Unfortunately, we can't get a decent enough signal where we are (Brooklyn) inside.
 

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I heard they charge from $1 per day to $80 per year. But keep in mind it uses your internet bandwidth.
 

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Originally Posted by ljo000  /t/1466491/aereo-wins-lawsuit-with-broadcasters#post_23160573


They are essentially being paid to house and maintain individual tuners for their users. The courts have already affirmed TV watcher's rights when it comes to recording, time/place shifting etc so really the only difference here is that you are outsourcing some of these functions. It just shows the sorry state of broadcast competition that none of them came up with the idea first.

In the long term I see what this company is doing as being very bad for those of us who use OTA. Laws will be changed to stop these guys from circumventing the retransmit fee and when this happens I am afraid that my right to record OTA will be infringed on.


On top of that, this should be a free service provided by the station not a paid service provided by a third party.
 

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Id be curious to see what kind of a person would want to pay $1 a day to watch streamed free OTA TV.
 

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 Streaming LiveTV is on the road map for the ceton MyMediaCenter app but there's no eta.
 

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Originally Posted by MKANET  /t/1466491/aereo-wins-lawsuit-with-broadcasters#post_23163483


Id be curious to see what kind of a person would want to pay $1 a day to watch streamed free OTA TV.

Let's say you want to watch some games, e.g. Olympics, soccer, etc, but you hate the idea of watching "live recording". $1 for the privilege is not expensive at all. The same applies to your favorite season finales.


$80 a year to be able to stream live TV to your cellphone isn't expensive either. Although I wouldn't pay it.
 

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I want to watch all the Steelers' games. I live in PA, so you would think this is a done deal. Unfortunately, my area is too close to Baltimore so the NFL says I HAVE to get every local Ravens game...and EVERY Eagles game (local and away). This means I miss every other Steelers game. I would love to be able to watch the a local channel from near Pittsburgh and see the games I normally would miss. Unfortunately, Aereo only does NYC.
 

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CBS is threatening to shut off Dish Network from carrying their affiliates due to the Hopper. If they actually did something that drastic I could see them stop OTA broadcasting and moving to a cable channel type model.
 

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CBS is threatening to shut off Dish Network from carrying their affiliates due to the Hopper. If they actually did something that drastic I could see them stop OTA broadcasting and moving to a cable channel type model.

Fox has done the same. I say let them, the FCC would love to have the spectrum back. Read this though for a good summary of why it probably won't happen, at least not for a while: http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/9/4205338/nuclear-option-would-fox-really-leave-the-free-airwaves-to-undercut-aereo
 

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I suppose that after the big networks stomp on start up Aereo in court with their paid for judges or change the law with their paid for representatives they will start this service themselves for a fat fee all the while touting that it was their idea. This is not what the founding fathers had in mind in the copyright provisions of the constitution.
 

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NBC Nightly News just had a segment about this tonight stating that NBCUniversal and a few others are filing lawsuits and that FOX and Univision are considering going to cable pay service and discontinuing OTA Free service......


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NBC Nightly News just had a segment about this tonight stating that NBCUniversal and a few others are filing lawsuits and that FOX and Univision are considering going to cable pay service and discontinuing OTA Free service......


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Univision going to cable only will be the stupidest thing they could ever do. How about saying goodbye to half their audience.
 
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