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Current H/DTV Channels Available in Albany/Schenectady/Troy-NY DMA:


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6-1/6 WRGB-DT (CBS), Albany, NY 1080i

6-2/6 WRGB-DT (THIS), Albany, NY 480i

10-1/26 WTEN-DT (ABC), Albany, NY 720p

10-2/26 WTEN-DT (WTEN Weather), Albany, NY 480i

10-3/26 WTEN-DT (Retro TV), Albany, NY 480i

13-1/12 WNYT-DT (NBC), Albany, NY 1080i

13-2/12 WNYT-DT (NBC/WNYT Weather), Albany, NY 480i

13-3/12 WNYT-DT (Doppler Imagery), Albany, NY 480i

13-1/18 WNYT-DT (NBC), Troy, NY 1080i

13-2/18 WNYT-DT (NBC/WNYT Weather), Troy, NY 480i

13-3/18 WNYT-DT (Doppler Imagery), Troy, NY 480i

17-1/34 WMHT-DT (PBS|HD), Albany, NY 1080i

17-2/34 WMHT-DT (PBS Kids), Albany, NY 480i

17-3/34 WMHT-DT (PBS), Albany, NY 480i

19-1/36 WCDC-DT (ABC), N. Adams, MA 720p

19-2/36 WCDC-DT (24/7 Local Weather), N. Adams, MA 480i

23-1/7 WXXA-DT (FOX), Albany, NY 720p

23-2/7 WXXA-DT (Cool TV), Albany, NY 480i

45-1/43 WCWN-DT (CW), Albany, NY 1080i

45-2/43 WCWN-DT (Universal Sports Network), Albany, NY 480i

45-3/43 WCWN-DT (CBS), Albany, NY 480i

51-1/13 WNYA-DT (MyTV4) Albany, NY 720p

51-2/13 WNYA-DT (AntennaTV) Albany, NY 480i

55-1/50 WYPX-DT (Ion), Amsterdam, NY 480i

55-2/50 WYPX-DT (Qubo), Amsterdam, NY 480i

55-3/50 WYPX-DT (Ion Life), Amsterdam, NY 480i


Time Warner Digital Cable HD


739 Showtime On Demand HD

803 HD PPV (Special Events)

1540 ESPN Goal Line HD

1730 EWTN HD

1733 Nickelodeon HD

1734 HUB HD (Discovery Kids HD)

1740 National Geo Wild HD

1745 History Chan Intl

1747 Headline News HD

1748 MSNBC HD

1749 CNBC HD

1750 Fox News HD

1751 BBC America HD

1753 Comedy Central HD

1754 CMT

1755 VH-1

1756 MTV HD

1757 Fuse HD

1758 G4 HD

1759 Bravo HD

1760 Style HD

1761 IFC HD

1762 E! HD

1763 Spike TV HD

1764 Cooking Channel

1765 We HD

1766 Hallmark

1770 Big 10 HD (must subscribe to Sports Tier)

1771 NBA TV HD

1775 Encore E HD

1777 Time Warner Movie Pass HD On Demand

1778 HBO Family East HD

1779 HBO Comedy East HD

1780 HBO Latino HD

1781 HBO Zone East HD

1782 ActionMax HD

1783 ThrillerMax HD

1784 MoreMax HD

1785 OuterMax HD

1786 5StarMax HD

1787 @Max HD

1788 WMax HD

1789 Big 10 On Demand (iCL39) (must subscribe to Sports Tier)

1800 HD PPV

1801 Showcase HD On Demand

1802 Primetime HD On Demand

1803 TWC Sports

1804 WNYA HD

1805 TBS HD

1806 WRGB-DT (CBS)

1808 WXXA-DT (FOX)

1809 YNN HD

1810 WTEN-DT (ABC)

1811 WMHT-DT (PBS)

1812 HD PPV (same as 1800)

1813 WNYT-DT (NBC)

1815 WCWN-DT (WB)

1820 WYPX-HD (ION)

1821 Home Shopping Network HD

1822 QVC HD

1823 Weather Channel HD

1824 Crime & Investigation HD

1825 Science Channel HD

1826 Biography HD

1827 TNT HD

1828 USA HD

1829 FX HD

1830 SyFy HD

1831 Toon Disney HD

1832 Cartoon Network HD

1833 ABC Family HD

1834 Disney Channel HD

1835 Animal Planet HD

1836 Discovery Channel HD

1837 Discovery HD Theater

1838 A&E HD

1839 History Channel HD

1840 MHD (MTV HD)

1841 HGTV HD

1842 Food Network HD

1843 Travel Channel HD

1844 TLC HD

1845 TV ONE HD

1846 CNN HD

1847 MSG HD

1849 MSG+ HD

1851 Fox Business News HD

1852 MGM HD (included in TWC's HD Tier at $3.95 per month)

1854 Smithsonian HD on Demand (included in TWC's HD Tier at $3.95 per month)

1855: Smithsonian HD (included in TWC's HD Tier at $3.95 per month)

1857: RFD-TV HD (included in TWC's HD Tier at $3.95 per month)

1858: MavTv HD (included in TWC's HD Tier at $3.95 per month)

1859 NY1 HD

1860 Universal HD (included in TWC's HD Tier at $3.95 per month)

1861 Hallmark Movie HD (included in TWC's HD Tier at $3.95 per month)

1862 AMC HD

1863 TCM HD

1864 Lifetime Movie Network HD

1865 Golf HD

1866 SportsNetNY HD

1867 YES HD

1868 MLB HD

1869 ESPN HD

1870 ESPN2 HD

1871 ESPNU HD

1872 ESPNEWS HD

1873 Versus HD

1874 Outdoor HD (must subscribe to Sports Tier)

1875 NHL HD (must subscribe to Sports Tier)

1876 National Geographic HD

1877 Speed HD (must subscribe to Sports Tier)

1878 CBS College Sports HD (must subscribe to Sports Tier)

1879 Tennis Channel HD (must subscribe to Sports Tier)

1880 HBO East HD

1881 HBO2 E HD

1882 HBO Signature HD

1883 Cinemax East HD

1885 Showtime HD

1886 TMC Xtra HD

1887 Showtime 2 HD

1888 TMC HD

1889 Showtime Showcase HD

1890 Starz HD

1892 Starz Comedy HD

1893 Starz Kids and Family HD

1894 Starz Edge HD

1895 Showtime Extreme HD

1909 Team HD

1929 MLB Extra Innings HD


Verizon FiOS


504 My WNYA TV-51....................Prime HD

506 CBS - WRGB HD....................Prime HD

508 FOX - WXXA HD....................Prime HD

510 ABC - WTEN HD....................Prime HD

511 PBS - WMHT HD....................Prime HD

513 NBC - WNYT HD....................Prime HD

515 CW - WCWN-TV 45 HD....................Prime HD

520 ION HD TV 55 WYPX....................Prime HD

550 USA HD....................Prime HD

551 TNT HD....................Prime HD

552 TBS HD....................Prime HD

553 FX HD....................Prime HD

554 Spike HD....................Prime HD

558 ES.TV....................Ultimate HD

567 Universal HDTV....................Extreme HD

568 WGN America HD....................Extreme HD

569 HD Net....................Extreme HD

570 ESPN HD....................Prime HD

571 ESPN Buzzer Beater HD....................Extreme HD

572 ESPNews HD....................Extreme HD

573 ESPN U HD....................Prime HD

574 ESPN2 HD....................Prime HD

576 YES HD....................Prime HD

577 Sportsnet New York HD....................Prime HD

583 Speed HD....................Extreme HD

585 Big Ten Network HD....................Prime HD

586 MLB Network HD....................Extreme HD

587 NHL Network HD....................Extreme HD

588 NFL Network HD....................Extreme HD

589 NBA TV HD....................Extreme HD

590 Versus HD....................Prime HD

591 Outdoor Channel HD....................Ultimate HD

592 Tennis Channel HD....................Ultimate HD

593 Golf HD....................Extreme HD

597 World Fishing Network HD....................Ultimate HD

598 MAV TV HD....................Ultimate HD

599 Cars.TV....................Ultimate HD

600 CNN HD....................Prime HD

602 CNBC HD+....................Prime HD

603 MSNBC HD....................Prime HD

617 Fox Business Network HD....................Extreme HD

618 Fox News HD....................Prime HD

619 The Weather Channel HD....................Prime HD

620 Discovery Channel HD....................Prime HD

621 National Geographic Channel HD....................Extreme HD

622 Science Channel HD....................Prime HD

623 Investigation Discovery HD....................Extreme HD

625 Smithsonian Channel HD....................Extreme HD

628 History Channel HD....................Prime HD

629 bio: The Biography Channel HD....................Extreme HD

630 Animal Planet HD....................Prime HD

631 HD Theater....................Extreme HD

632 National Geographic Wild HD....................Extreme HD

633 Pets TV....................Ultimate HD

639 TLC HD....................Prime HD

640 Lifetime HD....................Prime HD

641 Lifetime Movie Network HD....................Prime HD

649 WE tv HD....................Prime HD

650 QVC HD....................Prime HD

651 HSN HD....................Prime HD

664 Food Network HD....................Prime HD

665 HGTV HD....................Prime HD

668 Planet Green HD....................Extreme HD

669 Wealth TV HDTV....................Extreme HD

670 Travel Channel HD....................Prime HD

674 MyDestination.TV....................Ultimate HD

676 Recipe.TV....................Ultimate HD

680 Syfy HD....................Prime HD

681 A&E HD....................Prime HD

683 tru TV HD....................Prime HD

685 Bravo HD....................Prime HD

690 Comedy Central HD....................Prime HD

695 Comedy.TV....................Ultimate HD

699 ABC Family HD....................Prime HD

710 MTV HD....................Prime HD

711 Palladia HD....................Extreme HD

716 fuse HD....................Prime HD

717 VH1 HD....................Prime HD

721 CMT HD....................Prime HD

731 AMC [American Movie Classics] HD....................Prime HD

739 Hallmark Movie Channel HD....................Prime HD

744 MGM HD....................Ultimate HD

746 HD Net Movies....................Extreme HD

752 Nickelodeon HD....................Prime HD

770 BET HD....................Prime HD

780 Disney Channel HD....................Prime HD

781 Disney XD HD....................Prime HD

789 The Hub HD....................Extreme HD

835 NFL Red Zone HD....................Ultimate HD

840 Starz HDTV

842 Starz Edge HD

845 Starz Kids & Family HD

847 Starz Comedy HD

850 Encore HD

865 Showtime HDTV....................Ultimate HD

866 Showtime HDTV West....................Ultimate HD

867 Showtime Showcase HD....................Ultimate HD

868 Showtime Showcase HD West....................Ultimate HD

869 Showtime 2 HD....................Ultimate HD

870 Showtime 2 HD West....................Ultimate HD

873 Showtime Extreme HD....................Ultimate HD

874 Showtime Extreme HD West....................Ultimate HD

885 The Movie Channel HD....................Ultimate HD

887 The Movie Channel Xtra HD....................Ultimate HD

894 Independent Film Channel HD

895 EPIX HD....................Ultimate HD

899 HBO HD

901 HBO HD West

902 HBO 2 HD

903 HBO 2 HD West

904 HBO Signature HD

905 HBO Signature HD West

906 HBO Family HD

907 HBO Family HD West

908 HBO Comedy HD

909 HBO Comedy HD West

910 HBO Zone HD

911 HBO Zone HD West

912 HBO Latino HD

913 HBO Latino HD West

920 Cinemax HD

921 Cinemax HD West

922 More Max HD

923 More Max HD West

924 Action Max HD

926 Thriller Max HD

928 WMAX HD

929 At Max HD

930 Five Star Max HD

931 OuterMax HD

1001 HD PPV Events....................Prime HD

1002 HD PPV Events 2....................Prime HD
 

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Thanks for this update.


My situation is kind of bad, because I'm in the "Albany" area sort of, but I get Time Warner Cable service out of Binghampton. As far as I know, the only HD channels on the Binghampton digital system are HBO-HD and Shotime-HD. I'm dying for them to start picking up some locals (like ABC WTEN), but I don't know if they "can" since we don't get any Albany/Schenectady/Troy channels as our cable "locals". Most of my channels are out of Binghampton and Utica, and a couple out of Syracuse.


The interesting thing is that I'm probably close enough to receive the new Albany stations OTA, because I'm about 40 miles from the new transmitter, but I just don't know what kind of signal I'd get. I'm torn between investing in an OTA system, or just waiting to see what happens with my Time Warner provider.


If anyone has any suggestions, ideas, insight on the Binghampton area, etc. please post any news. THANKS!
 

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While this is not in the Alb/Schen/Troy DMA, I believe WBNG in Binghamton is currently OTA Digital.
 

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Yup - I just saw that about WBNG. Interesting - I wonder if the Binghampton Time Warner will pick it up, as we have the analog WBNG.


Anyway, not to get too off topic, does anyone know what kind of range/power the new Albany stations are going to have for OTA?
 

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While it's one community tower, the transmitters will all be operated independently. So range will depend on each transmitters wattage, elevation and frequency (lower channel frequencies travel further at the same wattage.) Since the new tower is located relatively where most of the analog Alb/Schen/Troy DMA towers are now, it's probably a good rule of thumb to figure that if you get crisp OTA analog reception from the channels available in Albany now, then you will likely get the new Digital ones in the coming seasons.
 

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Albany Schenectady Troy OTA Update:


The weather has finally warmed to the point that construction on the transmitter building for the community tower has officially resumed.


Update (4/9/03): So the warm weather ended apruptly and Winter is lingering, what does this mean for the tower site? It can't be good.
 

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Albany Schenectady Troy OTA Update:


As of May 2, 2003, According to WRGB (CBS6) Chief Engineer Fred Lass, the foundations are complete. Block is currently being laid. Electrical Work has begun. The building is expected to be complete in August, then transmitter installation will begin. 2 V12 (1.25MW) Generators and NiMo transformers have been delivered to the region and are now awaiting final delivery and installation.


Hopeful estimates of a Mid-Summer launch of DTV transmission are extremely grim considering transmitter installation will not start until August.
 

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May 22 2003

Breaking News For Albany Schenectady Troy NY:


WRGB CBS 6 anticipates full installation of its DTV transmitter to its existing analog tower by July 31, 2003. WRGB also expects to pass-through HDTV from CBS either at launch or within a few weeks thereafter to both its DTV transmitter and Time Warner Cable. When achieved, WRGB will be the first Alb/Schen/Troy station to OTA broadcast in HDTV.


The DTV Transmitter will later be moved to the Community Tower when construction is completed.
 

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July 10 2003

DTV News for Albany Schenectady Troy


WRGB CBS 6 will be broadcasting in DTV (480i) from it's existing tower beginning 7/11/03 or 7/14/03. As of yet, WRGB cannot receive HDTV from the CBS network, so no OTA HDTV for this market yet.


In analog news... A new UPN affiliate, WNYA, is now broadcasting bars and tone on Channel 51 from Pittsfield, MA.
 

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So this is good news...right?


OTA HDTV reception of WRGB CBS would have been great news, but I am sure they are doing their best and it does appear that progress is being made..


Any info about when the community tower will be completed?


Any info about "prospected" live dates for any of the other affliates in the capitol region?


Keep up the good work MasterFX1,


Hopefully this thread will recieve alot more attention in the near future



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July 15 2003

DTV News for Albany Schenectady Troy


WRGB-DT sign-on was delayed due to a heating issue. They expect to be live by 7/18/03. HDTV should be passed through by Mid-August.
 

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I had an opportunity to run some tests of DTV reception in New Paltz and Saugerties this past June. WCDC-36 digital was receivable in both locations, which were nearly 80 miles and about 55 miles distant, respectively.


The locations were on the roof of a two-story factory building just outside New Paltz and on the rear deck of a house in Saugerties, right up against the Catskill Mountains (and not in a very good location, either).


Antenna was the modified Channel Master 4308 from

http://www.hdtvexpert.com/Pages/cm3022.html


along with a Channel Master Titan 2 #7775 UHF preamp.


WCDC-36 only encodes 480i now but is expected to move to 720p encoding this fall once the rest of the Albany-Schenectady DTVs are on-air, particularly WTEN.


Look for their DTV signal (which was at less than half power when I tested) as it gets out very well from Mt. Greylock in western Massachusetts.
 

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Thanks dtvpete. I too can receive WCDC-DT from just north of the Catskills, at 2000 ft above sea level in Rensselaerville. (80+ Miles SW of Mt Greylock) However, the picture freezes or macro-blocks pretty often. (No signal level meter in my receiver) I am using a Radio Shack antenna on a rotor with a Radio Shack Line Amp/Splitter (That's it!)
 

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I case you weren't aware, Time Warner Albany just announced the addition of Discovery HD to their lineup. It can be found on Ch. 1837. I haven't viewed it yet, but many people on this forum say it is a stunning example of HDTV.
 

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Albany Time Warner and HDTV = lots of $$$ per month just for the basics..



I'm looking foward to the local OTA HDTV broadcast's soon to come
 

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Well WRGB-DT is on the air! Channel 39, but should be labeled 6-1 on your receiver. The transmitter is significantly lower on the tower than the analog transmitter and is a unidirectional antenna. I myself cannot receive it at home. Any one out there see it? How does it look?
 

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Thanks for the update MFX1,


WRGB-DT is officially here!


480i picture quality looks good and appears to be an improvement compared to the WCDC ABC signal.. of course the WRGB tower is 20 miles closer to my location..


Signal strength fluctuates from 75% - 87% on MyHd card,the median seems to be around the 81% mark, however I have seen it as high as 100%.. I have noticed quite a bit of pixelization and/or audio dropouts even when the signal was locked at 81%... I'm sure things will get better with time..


An interesting note is that my signal stays the same regardless if my antenna is pointed directly at the tower or if it is off 15 degees to either side.. maybe this has something to do with the unidirectional antenna?


Hmmm...makes you wonder if WRGB is ready for HDTV



BTW..I'm am located in the city of Albany and my antenna is a Channel Master 4221..
 

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Thanks BreakStuff, WRGB-DT is simulcasting their in-house signal, whereas WCDC-DT is upconverting the off-air signal of WTEN... Big difference!

By the way, WRGB receives network in digital, therefore, Primetime is "all-digital."

WRGB will, within a month, receive network in HDTV, retransmit in HDTV and digitally feed Time Warner. Amen.


If you cannot receive WRGB-DT now due to poor signal, It should get better in October when the transmitter is moved to its much taller location at the community tower and switches antennas.


BreakStuff- Does the signal breakup or drop out during complicated scenes? Or does it happen while watching mostly static images? It could be the compression that causes that (Not poor signal). WRGB-DT will upgrade its encoder within a few days, this may help.
 
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