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I currently have a Yamaha As-801 amplifier driving a pair of Klipsch R-26Fs. The Klipsch speakers sound fine, but I'm thinking of replacing them with a pair of Martin Logan Motion 40s!

So my question is WILL I BE HAPPY?
 

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Literally impossible to tell. We don't know what your preferences are, listening levels, genre of music, ratio of HT/music, environment, etc.
That being said, can you describe what type of sound you're looking for? Those Klipsch are pretty bright.

Why limit yourself to the Martin Logans?
 

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I currently have a Yamaha As-801 amplifier driving a pair of Klipsch R-26Fs. The Klipsch speakers sound fine, but I'm thinking of replacing them with a pair of Martin Logan Motion 40s!

So my question is WILL I BE HAPPY?
What's your overall budget? Where are you located (US, Canada, Europe or elsewhere)? Room size? Seating distance? Typical volume levels?
 

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I currently have a Yamaha As-801 amplifier driving a pair of Klipsch R-26Fs. The Klipsch speakers sound fine, but I'm thinking of replacing them with a pair of Martin Logan Motion 40s!

So my question is WILL I BE HAPPY?

Klipsch R-26F Speakers -


https://www.crutchfield.com/S-jZknpMaZ95M/p_714R26F/Klipsch-Reference-R-26F.html

How fine do the Klipsch speakers sound? Would you consider more Klipsch?

How much money do you have to spend?

AV or Stereo?

What are the dimensions of your room?

Martin Logan Motion 40i Speakers -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_839MO40IRW/MartinLogan-Motion-40i-Red-Walnut.html?tp=185

Are you looking at the NEW Motion 40i or the older Motion 40?

I've auditioned both the 40 and the 40i. The Motion 40 are a bit on the mellow side, the Tweeter is slightly restrained, however, the newer Motion 40i has boosted the tweeter a bit. Very nice sounding speakers.

But... the next model line up in the Klipsch Series would be the RP-Series. The R-Series have a plastic horn which some feel can resonate and get a bit shouty.

The RP-Series use a rubberized Horn, that is very very smooth. If you check reviews on the RP-Series you will find them universally Positive.

Klipsch RP-6000F Speaker -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_714RP6000E/Klipsch-Reference-Premiere-RP-6000F-Ebony.html?tp=185

I think if you get the older Motion 40, you are going to find good bass, but the Highs are going to be a bit soft compared to Klipsch R-Series. The newer Motion 40i are going to have more Treble presence, but still controlled and restrained. Probably smoother than the R-Series, and not as intense.

The Martin Logan Motion 40i are about US1,200 EACH.

What other speakers have you considered in the same price range?

SVS Prime -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_946PPPB/SVS-Prime-Pinnacle-Piano-Black.html?tp=185

B&W 603 -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_749603MW/Bowers-Wilkins-603-Matte-White.html?tp=185

SVS Ultra -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_946UTBO/SVS-Ultra-Tower-Black-Oak-Veneer.html?tp=185

Wharfedale EVO-4.4 -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_336EVO44WN/Wharfedale-EVO4-4-Walnut.html?tp=185

Focal Chora 826 -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_091C826DW/Focal-Chora-826-Dark-Wood.html?tp=185

Monitor Audio Silver 300 (2x6.5") -


https://www.crutchfield.com/p_893S300RN/Monitor-Audio-Silver-300-Rosenut.html?tp=185

Sonus Faber Venere 3.0 -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_968VN30WN/Sonus-Faber-Venere-3-0-Walnut.html?cc=07&tp=185

Monitor Audio Silver 500 (2x8") -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_893S500RN/Monitor-Audio-Silver-500-Rosenut.html?tp=185

These are all good speakers, but what is it specifically what you are looking for in a new speaker, and How much do you actually have to spend?

The Klipsch RP-Series are absolutely better than the R-Series, and considerably cheaper than the Martin Logan.

But if you have $1,000 to $1,2000 to spend on EACH speaker, there are other options to consider.

The Monitor Audio are internationally recognize as a good speakers, as are the Sonus Faber. The newest Wharfedale EVO is a wonderfully smooth speakers with silky sweet Mids. The Focal have fantastic Sound Stage.

And I have always been impressed with the Martin Logan Motion Series. Again, I thought, the bass was wonderful on the older Motion series, but the Bass/High balanced was a bit better on the New Motion Series. The bass only sounds a bit softer on the New Motion by contrast. That is, because there is a bit more treble, proportionally it makes the bass seem a bit softer, but I doubt that it actually is.

Though I can't know, a part of me wonders if you thought the Motion 40i were $1200/pair, when in reality they are $1200 EACH. But that is beside the point.

I think you would like the Martin Logan in general, but whether you would prefer them only you can say.

Steve/bluewizard
 

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https://www.crutchfield.com/S-jZknpMaZ95M/p_714R26F/Klipsch-Reference-R-26F.html

How fine do the Klipsch speakers sound? Would you consider more Klipsch?

How much money do you have to spend?

AV or Stereo?

What are the dimensions of your room?

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_839MO40IRW/MartinLogan-Motion-40i-Red-Walnut.html?tp=185

Are you looking at the NEW Motion 40i or the older Motion 40?

I've auditioned both the 40 and the 40i. The Motion 40 are a bit on the mellow side, the Tweeter is slightly restrained, however, the newer Motion 40i has boosted the tweeter a bit. Very nice sounding speakers.

But... the next model line up in the Klipsch Series would be the RP-Series. The R-Series have a plastic horn which some feel can resonate and get a bit shouty.

The RP-Series use a rubberized Horn, that is very very smooth. If you check reviews on the RP-Series you will find them universally Positive.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_714RP6000E/Klipsch-Reference-Premiere-RP-6000F-Ebony.html?tp=185

I think if you get the older Motion 40, you are going to find good bass, but the Highs are going to be a bit soft compared to Klipsch R-Series. The newer Motion 40i are going to have more Treble presence, but still controlled and restrained. Probably smoother than the R-Series, and not as intense.

The Martin Logan Motion 40i are about US1,200 EACH.

What other speakers have you considered in the same price range?

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_946PPPB/SVS-Prime-Pinnacle-Piano-Black.html?tp=185

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_749603MW/Bowers-Wilkins-603-Matte-White.html?tp=185

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_946UTBO/SVS-Ultra-Tower-Black-Oak-Veneer.html?tp=185

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_336EVO44WN/Wharfedale-EVO4-4-Walnut.html?tp=185

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_091C826DW/Focal-Chora-826-Dark-Wood.html?tp=185

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_893S300RN/Monitor-Audio-Silver-300-Rosenut.html?tp=185

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_968VN30WN/Sonus-Faber-Venere-3-0-Walnut.html?cc=07&tp=185

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_893S500RN/Monitor-Audio-Silver-500-Rosenut.html?tp=185

These are all good speakers, but what is it specifically what you are looking for in a new speaker, and How much do you actually have to spend?

The Klipsch RP-Series are absolutely better than the R-Series, and considerably cheaper than the Martin Logan.

But if you have $1,000 to $1,2000 to spend on EACH speaker, there are other options to consider.

The Monitor Audio are internationally recognize as a good speakers, as are the Sonus Faber. The newest Wharfedale EVO is a wonderfully smooth speakers. The Focal have fantastic Sound Stage.

And I have always been impressed with the Martin Logan Motion Series. Again, I thought, the bass was wonderful on the older Motion series, but the Bass/High balanced wast a bit better on the New Motion Series. The bass only sounds a bit softer on the New Motion by contrast. That is, because there is a bit more treble, proportionally it makes the bass seem a bit softer, but I doubt that it actually is.

Though I can't know, a part of me wonders if you though the Motion 40i were $1200/pair, when in reality they are $1200 EACH. But that is beside the point.

I think you would like the Martin Logan in general, but whether you would prefer them only you can say.

Steve/bluewizard
Thanks Blue Wizard, lots of good information.

Money? No problem, but I like to get the most value or good sound for my money. A pair of the Motion 40s are currently offered on Amazon for $1,400, not bad. I'll have to look into the RPs. Every review I read on the best floorstanders has at least one Klipsch in it. Can you recommend an RP?
 

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What's your overall budget? Where are you located (US, Canada, Europe or elsewhere)? Room size? Seating distance? Typical volume levels?
I have lots of money, live in the US of A, and my room size is 17 x 20 with a cathedral ceiling. Volume, not too loud sort of on the quiet side. My neighbors put up a fence when I moved in, so I certainly don't want to cause them any further consternations.
 

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Classic sign of upgratitis.......my current speakers sound fine, ....but I am thinking of replacing them.:D



There is no way to know if you will like a set of speakers until you live with them for a while...like 6 months or more...........
 

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Add the JBL HDI series to be on a short list of contenders.
Truthfully the only way to be sure that you get what ultimately is best for you is to listen in your home. I did a big bookshelf shootout here on the forum and it is only after doing that that I am confident I got what my ears liked best. Otherwise it would have just been guessing and assuming that the reviews would match with what my ears would hear. FWIW I auditioned bookshelves knowing I would go with the towers of the same series for my fronts. Dealing with 6 pairs of towers all at once would have been a logistical nightmare. I only say that as advice, not to flaunt my own shootout.
 

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I have lots of money
What would the max amount of money you'd be willing to spend be? The MLs would be just fine, I think, but knowing a budget might help in possibly steering you in a direction that will yield better performance-to-dollar-spent options.

Forgot to also ask if there's any other things, like WAF, that would hinder your options.
 

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This is a very hard question, you really have to listen to it. Find a place that takes return easily, listen to it for a few days and see. If you can find a store close by, go listen to it, you don't have to limit yourself to Martin Logan. But order and try at home with your amp is the best way.
 

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Thanks Blue Wizard, lots of good information.

Money? No problem, but I like to get the most value or good sound for my money. A pair of the Motion 40s are currently offered on Amazon for $1,400, not bad. I'll have to look into the RPs. Every review I read on the best floorstanders has at least one Klipsch in it. Can you recommend an RP?
Several people including myself have asked a series of question. If you really want help, you will answer all those questions.

And here are a few more -

Primarily Movies or Music?

What Other Equipment to you have or anticipate having to use in this system?

What types of Music/Movies do you listen to and at roughly what volume levels?

Repeating my previous questions -

AV or Stereo?

What are the Dimensions of the Room?

How far do you sit from the Speakers?


We are not asking these questions just to be annoying. The Answers to these standard questions will genuinely help us help you find the Speakers that best suit your needs.

In generally the Martin Logan Motion Series are fine speakers. But, we have no way of knowing if they will suit your needs until you explain what your needs and circumstances are.

I like to get the most value or good sound for my money.
That is a very good, very common, and very general statement. We all want best value and best sound. The problem is my Best Sound is not necessarily your best sound, which is why we need more details.

As to the deal you found on Amazon, make absolutely SURE that those are $1400 for a PAIR, and not $1400 EACH. That is a mistake you can't afford to make.

You say you are happy with the Klipsch, that implies you like a bit more forward, high efficiency, and a bit more intense speakers.

If your budget is $1400/PAIR, then do look at the Klipsch RP-6000 (2x6.5") which are about $600 EACH. They are far better than the R-Series, and you will find many reviews on YouTube.

This particular reviewer does not have the Floorstanding RP6000, but he does have a review and demo of the RP600 Bookshelf. They sound pretty impressive.






If your budget is $1400 EACH, I can not recommend the Klipsch RP-Series. However, if you budget is $1400 for a PAIR, I absolutely recommend that you check out the Klipsch RP-Series. You will find nothing but very positive reviews of the RP-Series.

Answer the questions.

Steve/bluewizard
 

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I have lots of money, live in the US of A, and my room size is 17 x 20 with a cathedral ceiling. Volume, not too loud sort of on the quiet side. My neighbors put up a fence when I moved in, so I certainly don't want to cause them any further consternations.
Lot of Money is not a number. I can point you at some speakers that are $150,000/pair, can you afford those?

Better to give us a sense of your budget in actual numbers, than to leave us to guess.

If you want some fantastic speakers, consider these -

Focal Aria 936 (Walnut) - $5,390/ PAIR -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_091A936PWA/Focal-Aria-936-Walnut-Prime-Veneer.html

Focal are fantastic Speaker, huge sound stage, tremendous presence. The bass is not that deep, but deep enough, and the bass is stunningly clear. I was very impressed. Though I auditioned the Focal Aria 836 speakers. Truly impressive.

If you want High End Klipsch, then these are truly breath taking speakers.

Klipsch Forte-III - $4,000/ PAIR -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_091A936PWA/Focal-Aria-936-Walnut-Prime-Veneer.html

Generally I have not been a fan of Klipsch, or at least of affordable Klipsch, but the new RP-Series are very tempting. Myself I would be more inclined to go for the 2x8" but for you the 2x6.5" are probably the right choice.

Your room size is slightly above average, so I think you are probably in the right size range for speakers (2x6.5").

Again, quite a few questions were asked, and only a modest number were answered.

Right now I would like to know what other Equipment is in your system?

If you have LOTS OF MONEY, then you should be more in the $5000/PAIR to $5,000 EACH range.



Steve/bluewizard
 

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So my question is WILL I BE HAPPY?
Don't sell your existing speakers.
Buy/try the new speakers.


Sell the old if new makes you happy. Return the new if the old sound better. :confused:


IMHO... only YOU can determine what works for YOU, in YOUR home/country. No matter the cost.
 

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Several people including myself have asked a series of question. If you really want help, you will answer all those questions.

And here are a few more -

Primarily Movies or Music?

What Other Equipment to you have or anticipate having to use in this system?

What types of Music/Movies do you listen to and at roughly what volume levels?

Repeating my previous questions -

AV or Stereo?

What are the Dimensions of the Room?

How far do you sit from the Speakers?


We are not asking these questions just to be annoying. The Answers to these standard questions will genuinely help us help you find the Speakers that best suit your needs.

In generally the Martin Logan Motion Series are fine speakers. But, we have no way of knowing if they will suit your needs until you explain what your needs and circumstances are.



That is a very good, very common, and very general statement. We all want best value and best sound. The problem is my Best Sound is not necessarily your best sound, which is why we need more details.

As to the deal you found on Amazon, make absolutely SURE that those are $1400 for a PAIR, and not $1400 EACH. That is a mistake you can't afford to make.

You say you are happy with the Klipsch, that implies you like a bit more forward, high efficiency, and a bit more intense speakers.

If your budget is $1400/PAIR, then do look at the Klipsch RP-6000 (2x6.5") which are about $600 EACH. They are far better than the R-Series, and you will find many reviews on YouTube.

This particular reviewer does not have the Floorstanding RP6000, but he does have a review and demo of the RP600 Bookshelf. They sound pretty impressive.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3aYMKS2Whk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXRV4bQaYis


If your budget is $1400 EACH, I can not recommend the Klipsch RP-Series. However, if you budget is $1400 for a PAIR, I absolutely recommend that you check out the Klipsch RP-Series. You will find nothing but very positive reviews of the RP-Series.

Answer the questions.

Steve/bluewizard

This is all true, but still it's not 100%!!


People do have different taste even though with all these method of choosing. I have a friend that chose his "best" speakers, for the life of me, I don't understand why he like that!!! There was absolutely no bass, all mid and highs. He loved it!!! We must be all hearing differently. All we can say is what we like. I am a Focal man. Yes, the Spectral is a little on the bright side. It has dual 8" woofers, but for whatever reason, bass is not it's strong suit.


I would still consider used, I am cheap, let other people pay for the depreciation.
 

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I'm more inclined to wonder how you though it would NOT be that complicated? :rolleyes::cool::D;)

Steve/bluewizard
Well I'll try to be more specific. My amp is a Yamaha AS-801, I have a Sony 5-disk changer, and I use an Audio Engine D2 to broadcast to the amp. I'm only interested in 2-channel audio. I have a CD collection, but I get most music over the Internet which consists of Jazz, 88.3 out of San Diego, and some Blues stations. On Amazon, the Motion 40s are $1,400 for the pair. A question, they are 4 ohms speakers, so is my amp suitable for them?

Money for speakers? I suppose $2,000 or less considering the amp isn't anything very fancy.

Regarding speaker experience, I have owned just two memorable speakers, AR3s and Large Advents. The rest were miscellaneous cheapo bookshelf speakers. Anyway, I still remember the Advents and wish I had kept them.
 
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