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 http://video.barnesandnoble.com/sear...an=60768834095


I saw this double DVD set at Best Buy today.


I mean, what more could you want? I.e.:


The Allman Brothers Band (minus Dickey Betts, of course)

DTS

3 hours of music

.....


Well, how about ANAMORPHIC WIDESCREEN?!?!?! (And ELIZABETH REED)


No mention of aspect ratio on the box (that's a BAD SIGN), but a search for details turns up "1.33:1 full frame" at rottentomatoes.com.


Drat!! And just when I thought I had died and gone to heaven.


I did find out that their 1970 appearance at the Atlanta Pop Festival is now on CD, though, and will be in stores in 4 weeks:

http://epicrecords.com/allmanbrothersband/

Briefly excerpted (two songs, worth) by Columbia Records the following year, the multi-track live tapes of those two sets finally surrender the bulk of their treasures all these years later on THE ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND - LIVE AT THE ATLANTA INTERNATIONAL POP FESTIVAL - among the earliest full-length live recordings of them now officially available, and the longest from 1970.


Clocking in with over 150 minutes of music on two CDs - one disc for each night - and a revealing behind-the-scenes liner notes essay by ABB Tour Magician Kirk West, the live album will arrive in stores October 21st on Epic/Legacy, a division of Sony Music.



I saw them in 1973 (Iowa City) and 1974 (Kansas City) -- unfortunately after the deaths of Duane and Berry. And Dickey Betts solo in KC, KS. Wore out two vinyls of FILLMORE EAST.
 
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Originally posted by Dean Roddey
I have the one that they put out a while back, and it's pretty good. They are a solid band that plays music it's hard not to like. And some of the off stage stuff was pretty interesting. Duane Alman has finally become the crusty black blues man he always wanted to be I think, and does a quite powerful solo piece in the studio.
Duane? Then I REALLY have died and gone to heaven!!!!!


I think you meant Gregg! :)


Which DVD do you mean? I have that one that COULD HAVE BEEN GOOD (Live At Great Woods) but Sony cut the songs and stuck those interviews in a PIP in the middle of some of them. Grrrrrr!!!!! I want an unedited 13-minute DVD segment of In Memory of Elizabeth Reed, 22 minutes of Whipping Post, etc. -- not 5 minutes and then a cut!! Double-grrrrr!!!!!


And, I think being married to Cher is what made Gregg "crusty." :D
 
Discussion starter · #5 ·
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Originally posted by lonwolf615
As an old peach head,I have to say don't worry bout the aspect ratio-its about the music,and this is the finest this band has sounded since filmore east.Derek is increadible-he somehow captures the feel and magic of Duane's playing without sounding like an imitator.He's the most exciting guitarist I've heard in 30 yrs even if he doesn't yet have the technical prowess of Warren.Greg's voice has never been better(best white blues singer of all time IMHO).Check out Derek's solos on Dreams and Whipping Post,and both guitarists solos on Rocking Horse.I hate to say this but theyre a better band without Dickey=compare this to the Beacon cd from a few years ago.BTW,the 2nd disc has a long interview and history of the band that is priceless,and reading between the lines its clear the whole band wanted Dickey out.But anyways, I highly reccomend this dvd.If you havent already guessed,I consider ABB the greatest R+R band of all time(sorry Pete and Keith) and I'd probably use this dvd as even more proof of that than Eat A Peach or Filmore-its that good.
I fixated on two bands/performers in the 1970s -- David Bowie (I bought and memorized ZIGGY STARDUST before most people had even heard of him) -- and The Allman Bros. Band. Get Miles Davis' KIND OF BLUE, considered to be one of most important jazz albums ever released, read the liner notes about how Duane Allman listened to it over and over and over again -- and then listen to Fillmore East and see if you don't hear BLUE's influence in the Brothers' music.


From what you've written, I will buy the DVD. I know about how they kicked out Dickey because of his drinking or whatever, and how he tried to sue to get back in. Sad story.


If you're talking about this Beacon CD:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg


I'd never seen it or heard of it before. It looks like Amazon reviewers don't like it too well. You say this new DVD stomps this CD into the ground, eh? This new DVD just came out yesterday ... how did you come to be able to review/judge it SO QUICKLY? Did you get a pre-release copy? Or did you stay up all night last night watching and listening to it?


What are your expectations for the 1970 Atlanta Pop CD set?


Thanks!!!!
 
Discussion starter · #7 ·
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Originally posted by Shaded Dogfood
their 1970 appearance at the Atlanta Pop Festival is now on CD


I was there!
Can I ... Can I ... perhaps touch your hand???


Awesome!!!!!!
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
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Originally posted by Shaded Dogfood
their 1970 appearance at the Atlanta Pop Festival is now on CD


I was there!
Track List

DISC 1 1. Introduction

2. Statesboro Blues

3. Trouble No More

4. Don't Keep Me Wondering

5. Dreams

6. Every Hungry Woman

7. In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed

8. Whipping Post

9. Mountain Jam, Pt. 1

10. Rain Delay Dialogue

11. Mountain Jam, Pt. 2


DISC 2 1. Good Morning-Dialogue

2. Don't Keep Me Wondering

3. Statesboro Blues

4. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed

5. Stormy Monday

6. Whipping Post

7. Mountain Jam


Looks like some duplication on the second day. Of course, their repertoire probably wasn't too huge at that time.
 
Discussion starter · #11 ·
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Originally posted by BeckWails
No Berry Oakley. No Dickey Betts. No Duane Allman. NO Allman Brothers Band! If you’ve SEEN the band LIVE with and without the original musicians then you know what I’m talking about. If you haven’t SEEN the band with their original personnel I refuse argument.
Well, I double-dog-dare you to say the above to the people at THIS Web site:

http://www.allmanbrothers.com/


and the comments of the reviewers of "Hittin' The Note" that they post here:

http://www.allmanbrothers.com/module...ent&page_id=35


Some people apparently feel that The Allman Brothers Band is very much alive and well!!! :D
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
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Originally posted by Shaded Dogfood
Rolling Stone rated him #2 after you-know-who in their list of 100 top guitarists, and for once they weren't just being their usual fill of snit selves.
Ah, the good ol' days when Rolling Stone was a REAL Rock alternative counter-culture publication. A folded-in-half, printed-on-newsprint very thick thing. Then, they added color to the covers and made it newspaper size/format (i.e., not folded). Then they went to glossy paper. Each change made it slicker and less what it used to be.... (or so I thought).
 
Discussion starter · #17 ·
Okay. I have the DVD. I'm watching/listening to it (DTS for now).


Okay, so it's not widescreen and it's not the sharpest image I've seen on DVD.


The music and musicianship so far are great. Plus, about half the concert is their latest CD, HITTIN' THE NOTES -- so I can hear that album via this DVD (an album I haven't yet heard).


But ... who are those "old guys" with the pot bellies? And who's that guy with the neatly-trimmed beard playing keyboards?


How ... depressing!!!!!


Because that means I'm an old out-of-shape guy, too. It's like looking in a mirror and not liking what I see.


(Oh, well, I can always turn off the TV and just listen!!) :)
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
Okay.


The ending credits (after the encore One Way Out on Disc 2) is in Widescreen (don't know if it's anamorphic as I am watching it on my PC at work).


The "extra" interview is in Widescreen (though the clips from the concert are obviously cropped top and bottom from the 4:3 concert). Again, don't know if it's anamorphic or not and won't know until I get home with it tonight.

SO ... Why In The Name Of All The Mushrooms In The World Didn't They Film The Concert In Widescreen Anamorphic?!?!?!?!?!? I mean, as much as I like AK+US (Alison Krauss + Union Station) ... and their concert is High-Def video widescreen anamorphic ... Surely ABB fans deserve the same or better!!


Just venting. I need to say this to http://www.allmanbrothersband.com .
 
Discussion starter · #28 ·
I see jaggies. I think the disk is below what we should expect in terms of DVD PQ.


I just listened again to Desdemona. Sweet!!! I never saw the ABB until a year or two after Duane and Barry had died, so I missed the "original" band. I wore out two vinyl copies of FILLMORE EAST and loved Elizabeth Reed. I suppose a purist might not like this band these days, but this is a great concert and a great band. Derek Trucks does a fine job on guitar.


I remember when, after I had bought a copy of THE FILLMORE CONCERTS, I went to a friend's place (he played some instrument -- cello or bass, maybe?), put him in my car, put earphones on his head, went to the Elizabeth Reed track, and played it for him. He had never heard it or ABB before. When it was over, all he could say was, "What was THAT?!?!" It blew him away!! He was a young kid, maybe 20 years my junior. I just grinned, like I had given him a winning lottery ticket!!
 
Discussion starter · #30 ·
Reading at http://www.allmanbrothersband.com or http://www.amazon.com or somewhere, apparently there are three "versions" of The Fillmore Concerts. There is the original record, LIVE AT FILLMORE EAST. Then there is the totally-remixed version put out as THE FILLMORE CONCERTS that I think brings out different instruments, as well as splices some of the separate performances (e.g., Elizabeth Reed starts with one performance, but seamlessly ends with a different one which the producer felt was a better second half). The "third" version is based on a person's report whose friend actually did a reel-to-reel tape of the concert those nights. He said his friend's tape of the concert sounds totally different from the released mixes and is closer to what the concert sounded like to those who were there. Wish I could get a copy of THAT to listen to!!!!
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
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Originally posted by Wakey
hahaha! No slight against the former members but perhaps going to concerts "straight & old" has impaired your judgement.
Straight? Who ever went to an Allman Bros. concert in the '70s STRAIGHT?!?!?!?!?!


I mean, after all, their symbol is a MUSHROOM!!!!
 
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