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Often, people ask a question like, where should I put my amp or receiver if I want to improve my sonics? What can I do to tighten up my bass? Now many place their amps somewhere higher up. This is wrong. You should place your amp at the very bottom. For those of you who run monoblocks and place each amp by the speaker on stands, well you're doing the wrong thing. Sell the stands and put your amps on the floor. There are several theories, all of which apply, which serve to explain the improvement in the bass. I think it's time to look at them all so that we, as audiophiles, may inform our friends of the sound, scientific reasons why amps belong on the floor.


It is well known from anyone who does any baking, that less time is required when baking at lower altitudes. This is simply due to air pressure. Scientifically, according to well-known Chemical colligative properties, the boiling point of a substance decreases with decreased air pressure. At lower altitudes, such as you'll find at the bottom shelf (better the floor) more electrons are available. At higher altitudes, like anyplace other than the ground, more electrons escape. Being very light, they escape very quickly and take with them very very important audio information that contributes to a tightened bass. The important thing to understand from all this, is that for those of you who live in Denver, you're doomed, no matter how much you spend, no matter what subwoofer you buy, to having worse bass than us, who live at lower altitudes. You think Hussein built those underground bunkers for personal protection? Think again me bucko, it was to improve his bass. Duhhhhhhhh!


Another reason has to do with rather simple gravitational effects. When you place your amp high, the electrons have to fall further. This is a very bad thing because what they do as they fall is to bump into the slower moving ones down the interconnects and speaker wires. For those who remember, potential energy (that's the energy something has by virtue of where it's located) can be converted to kinetic energy (that's the energy that's directly related to an object's movement). Hence, what occurs is that as these electrons get bumped, they increase the cable capacitance. This has the well-known effect of diminishing the bass and making it more muddy. Some think that what also is happening is that the audio information that the electrons are carrying gets transferred and spread out. Strand jumping and all that. I think there's some merit in this.


You can further help prevent the electrons from escaping by placing heavy objects on top of the amp. Keep in mind how small electrons are and don't for a minute think you can use sand bags. That's just plain foolish. Lead, or depleted urananium is much more effective in keeping your electrons from escaping. While you're at it, make sure there's a dictionary on top of the heavy weights to improve definition.


Speaker manufacturers, the good ones that is, have known this for many years which is why woofers are placed on the bottom. Oh, you don't have a speaker like that? Quickly sell it on Audigon while you can and buy one that does.


Now for you skeptics, lower your amp and see if you don't hear a tightening of the bass. Ask your wife or girlfriend. Even if they're out in the car, or visiting their mother, they'll know that something's different and not only different, but better. Try it :)
 

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Chu,


Are you taking into account the effect mentioned in this thread? . If not, I will have to consider you a charlatan, a quack, a fraud, maybe even a lip-syncher.
 

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Feel free to incorporate it. PC booted me from the spot. Something about my hair ;) As far as lip syncing goes, well i had a touch of acid reflux...urp.
 

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I know what you mean Chu.


When I stand up, the air is soooooo much thinner it is hard to breath. So I sit down and... ahhhhhhh...relief :)


I didn't know that was the reason for woofers being placed lower in the spk cabinet. OK, I'll get rid of my Mission and Dynaudio speakers today!!


Why do amp manufactures provide openings for heat to disipate from the top? I have a tube amp...I'm going to take your advice and put a heavy object on top of it. "Lead, or depleted urananium is much more effective in keeping your electrons from escaping." No, I am going to use Kryptonite.


Now I know - thanks!! :)
 

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I hear that amps that go to eleven are louder than ones that only go to ten.
 

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Chu, Thanks for the tip!My sub volume seemed too high so I'm going to remove its amp and mount it on a specially designed depleted uranium shelf mounted near my ceiling.Do you know of a good local source for depleted uranium or do I have to go to one of the esoteric manufacturers? Jim
 

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Actually there are some valid points here

Placing Amps on the bottom of the rack is the preferred location

#1 there is a temperature differential from the bottom of the rack to the top of the rack and it is cooler closer to the floor (heat rises and other equipment if placed below the amp will generate heat)

#2 Anything you have to load DVD,CD,VCR should be placed toward the top of the rack to prevent you from having to bend over all the time

to load it also keeps the loading closer to eye level

#4 amp termination is made easier when the amp is located toward the bottom of the rack the speaker leads are less likely to have to cross

power cords and the heavy power cord from the amp does not have to

hang from the top of the rack and run parallel with other wiring

#5 If your amp has oil filled capacitors you should never place an amp upside down or any other way than the way it was intended to be placed

and if you have a large power supply that is heavy and bolted to the chassis I would not think it would be a good thing to have it hanging upside down against its own weight
 

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Do you know of a good local source for depleted uranium or do I have to go to one of the esoteric manufacturers? Jim
Let's see, Kryptonite comes from Krypton, so Uranium comes from Uranus. Take a look up there and tell us what you see...
 

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Cripes!


Yet another discipline fallen to the creeping post-structuralist rot. (If indeed "discipline" has meaning any longer.)


Chuey, how 'bout you deconstruct the middle ear next? Let's find out how to listen to all these new nuances.
 

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While you're at it, make sure there's a dictionary on top of the heavy weights to improve definition.
:) :chuckles:
 

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thanks for the entertainment.
 

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I hear that amps that go to eleven are louder than ones that only go to ten.
LOL!!


Well, why not just mark the 10 with an 11?


At this point, I need to edit this post and tell you guys that I am LMAO reading everyones replies! Especially the way some one segued "krptonite" to "uranus"!! Thanks for the laughs!
 

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Nice one, Chu.
 
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