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Amps seem cheaper than a new AVR. Help

632 Views 8 Replies 5 Participants Last post by  Yves Smolders
I have been looking around for the ultimate 100 Watt +/- 7.1 AVR with DVI/HDMI switching. Well I just can't afford that so I'm looking for other options that are chaeper and give me the power now and a cheaper upgrade path in the future. Thinking of waiting on a new AVR until the HD-Audio formats are out in recievers for BlueRay and HD-DVD.

I've been looking at Amps on Ebay thinking of buying a 3 channel 120 watt amp for my fronts and letting my AVR handle the rears and surrounds. This might be ok but my old ONKYO is only a 5.1 reciever and I would by trying to drive my rears and surrounds on it so I'm not even sure how I would hook it up properly.

Room is 21x27

7.1 speaker setup

LCR Ascend Accoustics 340

Rears & Surrounds in cieling, Symphony S623TR (135 watts)

SUB is SVS 25-31 PCI

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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At your level, separates make much more sense than flagship AVRs. Plus you can invest incrementally. Look at e.g. the Outlaw 770 , 7 x 200W $1799 that will kick the ass of any AVR. You buy it once and you never buy another amp. Or start smaller with three M-200 monoblocs , 3 x 200W for $857 and keep using your AVR for the surround channels.

Next upgrade cycle concentrate on the processor and forget the amps. Net savings over time for better gear!
By doing this i would limit myself later to a tube amp AVR right? I couldn't mix them and it sound good could I?
What? What are you talking about a tube amp for? They don't even make tubed receivers any more. Do you mean something else?
I believe that you are on the right path. An expensive flagship receiver or preamp with all the bells and whistles will be outdated in a couple of years. Midrange AVR's will have better processing and more features than either by that time. By keeping your current AVR and getting a seperate amp for your mains, you will be able to re-use them during the next upgrade cycle at less cost overall than buying a new high-end receiver every three years or so.

Midrange AVR's will have the same features that flagship models have now within a year or so (although the amp section will not be as good). You will already have a good (if not better) amp by getting one now.
I wasn't sure what was in the receivers anymore.. I just seen Digital path receivers and just assumed they still put tubes or something similar in the ones that aren't digital path.. I guess I need to read up on this subject more to talk intelligently about it.

Thanks for you help again.
You might ask more questions at the Ascend Forum .
partial, what you will need with separate amps is called a "pre/pro" or preamp-processor nowadays. No amplification in it. Pre/pros tend to occupy the higher end of the market, so many people now buy less expensive receivers and just ignore the weak amplifier stage and use their own amps.
I agree. Buy a midrange receiver as "super processor" with all bells & whistles you need, and ignore the amp section.

You could use the amps for rear channels if you want, but definetly go high quality on the 3 front channels.

I found my amp - I'm using UcD400 modules by Hypex (UcD is Philips' class-d implementation) and they easily blew away the DSP-A2's output stages.

I'm going to upgrade to 3 UcD400 modules, so my front-stage is entirely UcD driven.

After that, i'm going to look into a nice receiver, like the Pioneer 56TXi, to use as processor and rear channel amps.
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