Hey everyone, I was at my parents watching the AFC championship last night-go Colts-anyhow -after the game I was watching some disney pixar movies on their pioneer 5070 and a yamaha upconverting dvd player. I have the same t.v-that's why they got one -they saw my t.v. and got one very soon after. Anyhow-the disney pixar movies looked incredible on the pio 5070-with only a regular dvd player. I have 2 plasmas, bedroom and living room and I have 2 hd dvd players-a1, a2. I have to tell you that with the ability of the hd dvd players and their upconverting ability, the difference would have to be minimal from what I saw of the pixar movies to the stupid blur-ray mortgage borrowing players and the pixar movies on Blur-ray machines. Yes I have seen the screenshots on this site comparing the two-but-I think if you really need the Pixar movies-they are still 90% of what you would see (or notice) when they are upconverted. And anyhow, do you think little kids really will notice any difference between an awesome upconverted image on hd dvd and the "real" hd image on a Blurry machine. (sorry cant think of any other ways to take shots at arrogant,stupid, maverick, do it our own way sony at this moment)-what are some other good nicknames for the machines that are pricing themselves right out of the market? I hope sony crashes and burns a horrible death in this war-price will be the deciding factor. 50, 000 for a bmw-or 100 thousand for a mercedes-ummm-looks like a bmw sell out.