[Ferguson]

Sometimes it would be nice to be able to convert the live buffer to a recorded program. Many times I have been watching live (delayed) programs and have wanted to save what I had just viewed. The only way that it can be done now is to hit the INSTANT_REPLAY key hundreds of times and dump it to tape.

 

[JANVideo]

I agree it needs a little help, but instead of the IR button, you can use the fast reverse scan at the highest speed to get you to the beginning of the buffer, then dump to tape. That's much faster.

Joel N.

 

[Ryan]

One hurdle is the live buffer is always at highest quality and there is not really a way to covert it to a lower quality on-the-fly. I guess you could save it a HQ if you really wanted it.


I think there are also some file system issues about which details are not known since the file system is proprietary.


Ryan


------------------

Ryan

 

[jbarr]

Quote:

Originally posted by Ryan: One hurdle is the live buffer is always at highest quality and there is not really a way to covert it to a lower quality on-the-fly. I guess you could save it a HQ if you really wanted it.

For most stuff, HQ wouldn't be too bad, but how about allowing us to set the default "live" viewing quality. Granted, most wouldn't want to watch live TV in Standard mode, but the option to do so would be nice.




------------------

-Jim


ReplayTV: The only way to watch Iron Chef!

 

[The Robman]

Having the ability to save the current buffer to the HD is a common request, and I believe the Replay guys have indicated that they are looking into it. I don't believe that it will ever be possible to save it in anything but the highest quality, but it ought to bepossible for the unit to look at the channel guide and say "OK, this show started at 2pm and ended at 3pm, so I will save that one hour block to the HD"


Another alternative could be this, when you hit the record button during playback of a delayed show, you are given a new UI screen that lists the shows from the channel guide that are in the buffer, maybe even with a different color scheme to show what percentage of the show is in the buffer, and you can select which shows you intended to save. If your drive is pretty empty, and you haven't been changing channels much, you might be surprised just how much in actually in the buffer.


------------------

Later,

Rob.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/

 

[Ferguson]

Using the fast reverse is a great suggestion. This forum works very well when used to exchange ideas, as opposed to some of the posts that I've seen recently (hello Mordock).


I would not mind recording the buffer in the highest-quality mode as opposed to losing it altogether. Most of my viewing is devoted to science and history and I would like to have the option of reviewing it at a later date. If and when we get that ability, the issue of editing will undoubtedly rear its ugly head...



[This message has been edited by Ferguson (edited 11-01-2000).]

 

[ken.kipnes]

Quote:

Originally posted by Gil T. Pleasure: Same here. I'd love to have the ability to save live buffer, even in HQ mode. I'd also love to have the # + QS and # + IR work on live buffer as well.

I think # + QS and # + IR would be rather risky. If you weren't fast enough, it would switch channels on you and purge the buffer.


-ken

 

[just_mike]

gil-

whenever i accidentally enter the wrong digits, i just enter (up to) 4 zeros, followed by the digits i meant to enter.


e.g.: i want to go to channel 33, but i'm off by one row and enter 66. i then just enter 0033+enter. (i do this all the time in the Channel Guide)


so, if you enter 0000+enter, it will not tune to any channel. i'm pretty sure i've done this (i know i've done it on other television devices) i'm also pretty sure that it will not reset the live buffer, but i don't remember.


------------------
...mike

 

[karog]

Quote:

Originally posted by just_mike: so, if you enter 0000+enter, it will not tune to any channel. i'm pretty sure i've done this (i know i've done it on other television devices) i'm also pretty sure that it will not reset the live buffer, but i don't remember.

Sorry, no. If the number is zero and you press Enter or just leave it, it changes the channel ending in a no video signal screen. I tested this on both 2.1 and 3.0 and they behave the same.


Tuning to the station you are already on also "changes" the channel and clears the buffer.



[This message has been edited by karog (edited 11-06-2000).]

 

[Keith Myers]

This may have been mentioned in other posts, but I would like to see a better thought out implementation in the new padding feature in 3.0 SW. The starting of programs before the hour should also have its complement of ending programs the same padding interval before the bottom or top of the hour so as to maintain equal 30 or 60 minute recording times. This would likely remove the inability to record programs that are running concurrently in time. I was really disappointed to find the the padding feature only allowed padding after the hour after I altered programming 1 minute before the hour to compensate for a broadcaster who always starts 1 minute early for all its primetime programming.

 

[The Robman]

Quote:

Originally posted by Ferguson: This forum works very well when used to exchange ideas, as opposed to some of the posts that I've seen recently (hello Mordock).

Or better yet, "goodbye Mordock".


I think the idea about killing the direct access channel numbers is a BRILLIANT idea! I have absolutely no use for these whatsoever and I have accidentally changed channels when I didn't intend to, so how about it Replay guys? That would of course, open the door the the n+IR/n+QS feature in live mode too.


Keith, you're in the wrong thread.




------------------

Later,

Rob.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/

 

[debbi2]

Regarding Direct Access to Channels:


If you press numbers by accident, press Exit. This will remove the numbers.


Judy

 

[Ferguson]

Being able to cancel erroneous numeric key entries is another good reason to move the EXIT key to a more prminent position on the remote. I swapped the RETURN_TO_LIVE key with the EXIT key and I find it much more useful.


Rob - I use the numeric keys to navigate the channels on the RTV, Have I missed something? Do you really want to disable the numeric channel select for RTV, even for # IR and # QS ?

 

[karog]

Quote:

Originally posted by Ferguson: Rob - I use the numeric keys to navigate the channels on the RTV, Have I missed something? Do you really want to disable the numeric channel select for RTV, even for # IR and # QS ?

I would like to have #IR and #QS for relative jumps during live tv even if waiting too long changes the channel. I could also live without the channel changing unless I also hit Enter.


In addition I do not see why the Pause buffer must be purged on channel changes. Why can't the Pause buffer contain whatever I have been viewing live for as large as the buffer happens to be? Rewinding would just take me back through what I had watched possibly including several channel changes.

 

[The Robman]

Quote:

Originally posted by Ferguson: Rob - I use the numeric keys to navigate the channels on the RTV, Have I missed something? Do you really want to disable the numeric channel select for RTV, even for # IR and # QS ?

I can tell from your post that you use your Replay very differently to me in that you must watch alot of live TV, I almost never watch live TV. The few times that I do watch live TV I usually select the channel from the channel guide. If you just enter channel numbers you'll end up on a channel where you don't know what's playing and you'll have to watch commercials when you get there.


With disc spindown disabled, I have noticed that the live buffer doesn't get purged when you power the unit off, which is good because I use the POWER button as a toggle between my two units. The other day I switched to my 2020 and saw something on live TV that interested me. The cool thing was that I could still REW back to the beginning of the show that was in progress and watch it without commercials.




------------------

Later,

Rob.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/

 

[just_mike]

thanks judy! i thought that you should be able to use EXIT, but was sure that the 4 zeros thing worked! and since i didn't remember using EXIT, but did remember using 4 zeros, i didn't say anything.


sorry for the mis-information...


------------------
...mike