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Anthem D2 vs D1 2 part ?

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Is the main difference just in the video processing?


How would you rate the video processing in the d2 vs the DVDO VP 50 pro?
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The D2 also allows input of high bandwidth 5.1 channel PCM audio over HDMI -- very useful for listening to the lossless audio tracks from a Blu-Ray player that includes internal decoding (e.g., the PS3).


The video processing in the D2 is excellent.

--Bob

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau /forum/post/14150538


The D2 also allows input of high bandwidth 5.1 channel PCM audio over HDMI -- very useful for listening to the lossless audio tracks from a Blu-Ray player that includes internal decoding (e.g., the PS3).


The video processing in the D2 is excellent.

--Bob

But, is the processing better then the dvdo product?


Ok, but wouldnt a D1 with a DVDO VP pro 50 be better then the D2?


I know this is another topic,what excatly is PCM audio?
PCM is the simplest form of digital audio.


Some Blu-Ray discs come with raw PCM tracks, which are uncompressed, highest-quality audio. Others include Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA tracks which are highest quality PCM tracks that have been "zipped up" into a smaller "bitstream". The lossless decoders for these tracks "unzip" them back to their original PCM with no loss of data. A Blu-Ray player can send PCM tracks like these out over HDMI. If the player also includes internal decoders for TrueHD and DTS-HD MA then it can decode them to PCM and send them out as PCM over HDMI as well. The D2 can receive such high bandwidth, mutli-channel HDMI PCM audio tracks.


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The DVDO VP pro 50 is a fine product, but rather than pairing it with the D1 I would recommend getting a D2.

--Bob
...old thread, but I believe relevant to a question I have regarding the D1...


Would I still be able to enjoy the benefit of the better lossless audio (TrueHD, DTS-HD MA, etc.) if I were to use the analog outs of my Oppo 95 to a D1 (and the HDMI video from the Oppo 95 going straight to the TV)?
Yes.

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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson /forum/post/21221157


Yes.

Thanks for the quick response Kal!


I guess I just might pull the trigger on a nice used unit then.
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Originally Posted by FLCanuck /forum/post/21221393


Thanks for the quick response Kal!


I guess I just might pull the trigger on a nice used unit then.

A used 95? Should be pretty rare. OTOH, if you mean a used D1, I would not because you would give up HDMI but, also, ARC.
ARC can be used with any D1 as long as its software is up to date.

http://archive.anthemav.com/NewSitev...ntProduct.html

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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem /forum/post/21224321


ARC can be used with any D1 as long as its software is up to date.

But, without HDMI, it would entail redigitizing the analog inputs, no?

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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson /forum/post/21224338


But, without HDMI, it would entail redigitizing the analog inputs, no?

Yes and without HDMI there's still coax, optical, and aes/ebu. This has nothing to do with the D1's ARC-readiness. My point was merely to indicate this to the poster in case he ends up with a D1 though I'd recommend a D2 over it just the same.

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Yes and without HDMI there's still coax, optical, and aes/ebu. This has nothing to do with the D1's ARC-readiness.

Of course but we were speaking of mch HD audio.
There's more than one topic in there. In blind testing the Statement D1's analog-DSP mode was indiscernible vs analog-direct mode, all else being equal (no bass management, surround processing etc). If its ADC+DAC chain is audibly transparent, it follows that its ADC stage is audibly transparent.


If the Oppo 95's DACs are audibly transparent as well (I don't know but much has been made about their quality) then there's no rational reason to be concerned about re-digitizing in the D1 be it for ARC, bass management, Dolby PLIIx Movie so 5.1 inputs can turn into 7.1 outputs, etc.


In summary, no, ARC is not given up *nor crippled* when using a D1 instead of a D2. It's all up to the quality if the source's DAC stage.

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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem /forum/post/21224467


There's more than one topic in there. In blind testing the Statement D1's analog-DSP mode was indiscernible vs analog-direct mode, all else being equal (no bass management, surround processing etc). If its ADC+DAC chain is audibly transparent, it follows that its ADC stage is audibly transparent.


If the Oppo 95's DACs are audibly transparent as well (I don't know but much has been made about their quality) then there's no rational reason to be concerned about re-digitizing in the D1 be it for ARC, bass management, Dolby PLIIx Movie so 5.1 inputs can turn into 7.1 outputs, etc.


In summary, no, ARC is not given up *nor crippled* when using a D1 instead of a D2. It's all up to the quality if the source's DAC stage.

Sure. However, it does not mean that the issue isn't (perhaps unreasonably) significant to some people. I know there are and that's why I point it out. (BTW, why not eliminate the option and just digitize it by default if not to accommodate the fringe?
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson /forum/post/21225442


BTW, why not eliminate the option and just digitize it by default if not to accommodate the fringe?

Going by the 80:20 rule, analog bypass doesn't seem to be missed by MRX AVR users, nor for that matter does it appear to be used by most hi-end users turned on to ARC but here the stakes are higher making it too much of a potential deal breaker for phono and "true" DSD users.

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Originally Posted by Nick @ Anthem /forum/post/21226239


Going by the 80:20 rule, analog bypass doesn't seem to be missed by MRX AVR users, nor for that matter does it appear to be used by most hi-end users turned on to ARC but here the stakes are higher making it too much of a potential deal breaker for phono and "true" DSD users.

Makes perfect sense to me.
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